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Old June 18th 04, 02:56 AM
G.R. Patterson III
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monitor point seven wrote:

In article ,
none wrote:


Really? Every poll I've seen supports abortion.



Have you noticed that the only people that advocate abortion are those that
have already been born?


That is the lamest rejoinder I've ever read.


Stolen from Pogo circa 1960.

George Patterson
None of us is as dumb as all of us.
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Old June 18th 04, 03:20 AM
Tom Sixkiller
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"EDR" wrote in message
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This coming from an anonymous poster...


So?

Attack the argument, not the poster.



In article , none
wrote:

Since there is no Military requirment to be President your statment is
inflamatory and un-just.

Tell us.. have you ever put your name on that line and signed up to take
a bullet for the freedoms that you enjoy today?

I have, Veteran of '91 Gulf War.... Same war where the UN told us that
the Iraq border was the stopping line and we couldnt go anyfarther..Iraq
said thanks by filling mass graves (400,000+ dead counted so far),
provinding 15,000 US dollars (UN Aid money) to each of the families of
successful Palenstine terrorists (Murders), medical care for AlQueda
(Zarqaui).. and the list goes on and on....

We in '91, put the people of Kuwait on the long list of Nations that
the US has freed from tyranny and now our Military and President can say
that they have freed another 25 million Iraqi people from the death grip
of a Tyrant.

So these "people" that have never served in the military and are
starting wars so far by my count have given freedom and the chance to
live without fear of being raped,tortured or murdered to approx 50-60
MILLION people.

its asses like you that destroy the good that this country is doing, you
state faceless, factless accusations and spit on the very freedoms that
people around the world are dying to get to each day. You are a sick
individual



  #443  
Old June 18th 04, 03:21 AM
Tom Sixkiller
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"No Such User" wrote in message
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In article , TTA Cherokee Driver wrote:

How is that any different from the fact that for the most part the
people who decided to start our most recent war, avoided military
service themselves?

Hmm, seems to be a pattern developing here.

Here's a pattern for you: of all the major leaders in World War II, only
one was a combat veteran. Which one was he? Hint: his first name was

Adolf.

Well, so was Winston (Boer War), so was Benito, so were all the Japanese
leaders...

So what does prior military service do for a political leader? Use the
aforementioned Adolf as a case in your essay.




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Old June 18th 04, 03:44 AM
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"No Such User" wrote in message
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Here's a pattern for you: of all the major leaders in World War II, only
one was a combat veteran. Which one was he? Hint: his first name
was Adolf.


Churchill and Truman were combat veterans.


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Old June 18th 04, 03:48 AM
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message
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Well, so was Winston (Boer War), so was Benito, so were all the Japanese
leaders...


Churchill was a combat veteran, but not in the Boer War. His army career
included fighting at Omdurman in 1898 with the Nile Expeditionary Force.
During the Boer War he was a correspondent for a London newspaper.

I believe Mussolini was conscripted in to the Italian army but was injured
in training and released without ever seeing combat.


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Old June 18th 04, 02:21 PM
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So?

Attack the argument, not the poster.



Attacking the poster is for when you have nothing to attack
the argument with. Consider the source.


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Old June 19th 04, 05:32 AM
The Weiss Family
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 05:07:53 GMT, none wrote
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Really? Every poll I've seen supports abortion.



Have you noticed that the only people that advocate abortion are those

that
have already been born?

-Doug


Have you noticed that those who oppose abortion the most publicly are
the baby brokers who stand to profit from adoption fees?


--

Irrational beliefs ultimately lead to irrational acts.
-- Larry Dighera,


All emotions on this issue aside.
When I was younger I really leaned toward the pro-choice side.
Now that I have children (three beautiful angels), I don't understand how I
ever felt that way.
From the first ultrasound, I fell in love with my children.
In MY OPINION, babies are babies, and gifts from heaven.


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Old June 19th 04, 08:49 AM
S Green
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"The Weiss Family" wrote in message
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 05:07:53 GMT, none wrote
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Really? Every poll I've seen supports abortion.



Have you noticed that the only people that advocate abortion are those

that
have already been born?

-Doug


Have you noticed that those who oppose abortion the most publicly are
the baby brokers who stand to profit from adoption fees?


--

Irrational beliefs ultimately lead to irrational acts.
-- Larry Dighera,


All emotions on this issue aside.
When I was younger I really leaned toward the pro-choice side.
Now that I have children (three beautiful angels), I don't understand how

I
ever felt that way.
From the first ultrasound, I fell in love with my children.
In MY OPINION, babies are babies, and gifts from heaven.


You need a biology lesson


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Old June 19th 04, 01:59 PM
Jack
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On 6/19/04 2:49 AM, in article , "S Green"
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"The Weiss Family" wrote:


In MY OPINION, babies are babies, and gifts from heaven.


You need a biology lesson


And you need a heart transplant.

Vital organs for transplant are often transported by aircraft -- how
appropriate to this newsgroup!



Jack

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Old June 19th 04, 02:48 PM
Larry Dighera
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On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 21:32:56 -0700, "The Weiss Family"
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 05:07:53 GMT, none wrote
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Really? Every poll I've seen supports abortion.


Have you noticed that the only people that advocate abortion are those

that have already been born?

-Doug


Have you noticed that those who oppose abortion the most publicly are
the baby brokers who stand to profit from adoption fees?


All emotions on this issue aside.


That is a noble goal, but you mention: "I fell in love with my
children." I would characterize 'love' as an emotion.

When I was younger I really leaned toward the pro-choice side.


Because new-borns require, not only an enormous amount of parental
time for nurturing, but they also require a stable home environment
for decades if a healthy person is to develop, likely, you were
unable/unwilling to provide either at that time, and your leanings
were appropriate for that time in your life.

Who wants to have their offspring born into unfit conditions? Not a
healthy minded person.

Now that I have children (three beautiful angels), I don't understand how I
ever felt that way.


Children are marvelous. However we are not discussing aborting
CHILDREN. Children are already outside the womb. Life inside the
womb is referred to as a zygote, embryo or fetus.

From the first ultrasound, I fell in love with my children.


Your fetus was not a child nor infant, and prior to three months it's
not even a fetus, it's an embryo:

Merriam-Webster:
Main Entry:embryo
Pronunciation:*em-br*-**
Function:noun
Inflected Formlural embryos
Etymology:Medieval Latin embryon-, embryo, from Greek embryon,
from en- + bryein to swell; akin to Greek bryon catkin
Date:1548

1 a archaic : a vertebrate at any stage of development prior to
birth or hatching b : an animal in the early stages of growth and
differentiation that are characterized by cleavage, the laying
down of fundamental tissues, and the formation of primitive organs
and organ systems; especially : the developing human individual
from the time of implantation to the end of the eighth week after
conception
2 : the young sporophyte of a seed plant usually comprising a
rudimentary plant with plumule, radicle, and cotyledons
3 a : something as yet undeveloped b : a beginning or undeveloped
state of something

In MY OPINION, babies are babies, and gifts from heaven.


An embryo or fetus is not a baby nor infant. Such a misconception (no
pun intended) is illogical and often used by those who wish to
influence others into accepting their views through the use of emotion
instead of rational thought.



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Irrational beliefs ultimately lead to irrational acts.
-- Larry Dighera,
 




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