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Old September 10th 03, 02:43 AM
C.D. Damron
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"Ron Wanttaja" wrote in message ...
On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 01:06:19 GMT, "C.D. Damron"
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It's interesting to note that Dr. Barton Pakull, the FAA chief psychiatrist
involved in the Hoover case, also testified against Campbell in 1980.


A very nice post, Ron.

Considering that this thread is reaching 200 posts, I have three more words to add:


GAME, SET, MATCH!

(we now return you to your regularly scheduled programming, in progress)

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Old September 10th 03, 11:58 AM
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In article , Ron Wanttaja says...
Oh, I don't know. There might be other reasons he refused to endorse it.

A more telling situation is in Hoover's OWN book. In the chapter where he
discusses his FAA problems, he thanks, by name, about two dozen people for
their help in regaining his medical. He doesn't mention Jim Campbell.



Hmmmm I wonder why? could it be that Hoover didn't think zoom was as important
as zoom thinks he is? Credibility it's about credibility. When it comes down to
it zoom always falls short.


Note Campbell's claim regarding Hoover's reaction when he got his medical
back:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?C27721AD5

If Bob Hoover was so grateful for Campbell's help that he called Jim first,
why did Hoover shun Zoom when he wrote his own book?


That's what a lot of us would like to know .Well not really because those of us
who know zoom didn't believe Hoover called zoom in the first place . So Hoover's
non acknowledgement of zoom is proof positive that zoom lied about the
importance of his involvement. Credibility it's about credibility.

zoom is a phony and those who believe him are fools or are being fooled. IMHO

Chuck S RAH-15/1 ret

'credibility it was always about credibility" chuck s

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Old September 10th 03, 01:46 PM
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On 09 Sep 2003 05:33 PM, Ron Wanttaja posted the following:


It's interesting to note that Dr. Barton Pakull, the FAA chief
psychiatrist involved in the Hoover case, also testified against
Campbell in 1980. One wonders how much Campbell's efforts in the
Hoover case were due to the wish to help right the wrongs against
Hoover vs. the chance to get revenge against the one of the men who
destroyed Campbell's chance at an airline career.

snip

This just gets better and better.


Del Rawlins-

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Wherre the hell is juan when you really need him? g


Barnyard BOb --
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Old September 10th 03, 02:18 PM
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Now you know that Juan will claim an "out" on that last serve, to
prolong the game!

"C.D. Damron" wrote:

"Ron Wanttaja" wrote in message
... On Wed, 10 Sep
2003 01:06:19 GMT, "C.D. Damron"
wrote:
It's interesting to note that Dr. Barton Pakull, the FAA chief

psychiatrist
involved in the Hoover case, also testified against Campbell in

1980. A very nice post, Ron. Considering that this thread is
reaching 200 posts, I have three more words to add:
GAME, SET, MATCH!

(we now return you to your regularly scheduled programming, in
progress)


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Old September 10th 03, 02:23 PM
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Barnyard BOb -- wrote:

On 09 Sep 2003 05:33 PM, Ron Wanttaja posted the following:


It's interesting to note that Dr. Barton Pakull, the FAA chief
psychiatrist involved in the Hoover case, also testified against
Campbell in 1980. One wonders how much Campbell's efforts in the
Hoover case were due to the wish to help right the wrongs against
Hoover vs. the chance to get revenge against the one of the men who
destroyed Campbell's chance at an airline career.

snip

This just gets better and better.


Del Rawlins-

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Wherre the hell is juan when you really need him? g

Barnyard BOb --


Most likely gathering his rebuttal ammunition. You don't suppose he is
checking with his hero now do you? Nah, that would be too easy, and he
probably would become one of the zoomed if he did.

Warren

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Old September 11th 03, 12:54 AM
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In article , Warren & Nancy says...
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Wherre the hell is juan when you really need him? g

Barnyard BOb --


Most likely gathering his rebuttal ammunition. You don't suppose he is
checking with his hero now do you? Nah, that would be too easy, and he
probably would become one of the zoomed if he did.


He ran as usual when the facts fly in his face. Probably zoomy told him to shut
up before I started posting all the "sucessfully sued" lawsuits in zooms past.
Boys and Girls club etc..... He's good for smart alec remarks but he's the kind
of guy that the girls in my old neighborood would beat up for being a sniviling
weasel.

See ya

Chuck S RAH-15/1 ret

"credibility it was always about credibility" chuck s


  #167  
Old September 11th 03, 05:18 AM
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"Eric Miller" wrote in message
. net...

I didn't contradict myself.
Where motorcycles and flying machines are concerned the USER must accept
more responsibility. That's why we preflight.


No, that's why -you- preflight. The fact that the designer and builder have
_equal_ responsibility is evidenced by the 18 years of liability that are
attached to anything they design and build.

You don't have to go to trial to make an issue of something, but you don't
have to raise all issus before the trial.


Round and round you go...

Especially where the account is provided a) by a lawyer b) in support of
advertising services.


Except the account provided by the defense is purely factual. The account
provided by the plaintiff relies purely on faith and a gaggle of
brownnosers.

Can you agree that settlements can happen without merit (which is

different
from frivilous) and issues can be raised in trial that don't come up
pre-trial?
Say yes and I can stop posting!


Sometimes. Doesn't look like it in this case.

Juan


  #168  
Old September 11th 03, 05:20 AM
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"ChuckSlusarczyk" wrote in message
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I admitted no such thing your like your hero zoom playing word games and
twisting the factsand telling the lie so often that you believe it.


If that's the case looks like you two must be twins separated at birth.

# LK-989-3 I believe that's the Morgan Case which I located today, after I

read
it over to refresh my memory I'll comment on it here ,in public .I will

also
comment on the Florida case you mentioned .But if you were as good at

digging up
dirt as you think you are you should have known the George Conn subject

has been
talked about quite a bit in this public forum. Ask Kevin O'Brien about the
paperwork I showed him concerning the George Conn situation.
Once again I got nothing to hide .


Sure, now that I have proven that neither I nor Jim was lying, there is in
fact nothing to hide, is there. More to the point, there is nothing you can
hide now.

In fact Conn and I have a case pending right now and as soon as we get it

over
with if anyone wants to know how it comes out I'll tell them .
As I said before I got nothing to hide unlike your hero zoom.


I already knew that.

Next time, think twice before posting messages implying I am lying about
you.


  #169  
Old September 11th 03, 05:23 AM
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"ChuckSlusarczyk" wrote in message
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Frankly Bill if I had my druthers I would rather that 9 years ago zoom

just
would have left me alone.


Perhaps you should have followed your own advice. You would have saved
yourself the problems.



  #170  
Old September 11th 03, 08:30 AM
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ChuckSlusarczyk wrote in message ...
In article , Larry Smith says...


Well, I'd say Campbell is more bad than good but exposing Fetters was a
contribution, nonetheless. And didn't Campbell take up Bob Hoover's cross?
I say you've got to acknowledge him even if he is a *******. Course, I
haven't been sued by Campbell so I guess I can't get as bitter at him as
some of you. But, yeah, he's an ass.


Actually I've heard some accounts that zooms involvement in the Hoover issue was
actually a hinderence not a help. zooms diatribes against the FAA only hardened
their resolve. I heard Hoover didn't even endorse zooms book about the case. One
would think that if Hoover was so indebted to zoom for his help he would have endorsed it.IMHO

See ya

Chuck S RAH-15/1 ret

"a jerk and his master are still jerks" chuck s

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Hey Chuck;

Remember when we conspired to steal zooms chicken, Hoover was hiding
between some vehicles behind the tent.Cause that's where we found
zoomy sucking up to Hoover when we wanted to thank him for the
chicken. Back then we thought Hoover was ashamed to be seen in public
with the mooz.I know that you haven't forgot about him wanting to have
you arrested for poultry pilfering.

Frank M.Hitlaw, Executive Assistant to El Pollo Loco (Far East
Division)
 




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