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Old August 18th 17, 03:11 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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I gleefully refuse FB. :-)

Anyway my point was that FB users should be aware that a "public" FB page cannot be used as a substitute for a web site, if your intention is to reach a general audience without requiring them to be logged into FB. I seem to remember that it used to be possible, but FB has since clamped down on this "misuse" of its resources.
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Old August 18th 17, 03:39 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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I don't think you need to be logged in to facebook to view a public facebook page - as Sean said above.

For example, try this : https://www.facebook.com/SeanTiff7T/

I am completely logged out of facebook, and I can see it just fine.

In a lot of ways, facebook is a more appropriate for competition reporting than most websites are - the process of updating content (reports, photos, videos etc) is must simpler, and can be shared very easily among a group of people.

I understand that a lot of people have reasons for choosing not to create a facebook account. A lot of facebook content is undoubtedly pointless, and there are certainly a lot of people on facebook displaying validation seeking behaviour. On the other hand, it's also a very useful tool for keeping in touch with the activities of various gliding people that I have met in real life at various events (ie. Garret Willat, Tony Condon, etc). Beats waiting for the magazine to come out.

Anyway, the good news is that not having a facebook account doesn't stop you from being able to view content on public pages.

Cheers,
Nick Gilbert.


On Friday, August 18, 2017 at 11:41:20 AM UTC+9:30, wrote:
I gleefully refuse FB. :-)

Anyway my point was that FB users should be aware that a "public" FB page cannot be used as a substitute for a web site, if your intention is to reach a general audience without requiring them to be logged into FB. I seem to remember that it used to be possible, but FB has since clamped down on this "misuse" of its resources.


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Old August 18th 17, 01:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Anyway, the good news is that not having a facebook account doesn't stop you from being able to view content on public pages.


You just have to know it is there.



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Old August 18th 17, 07:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Thank you Nick. The link you gave to Sean's page works for me, I see a lot more there than at the link Sean gave above. The difference is "www.facebook.com" (works) vs. "m.facebook.com" (see far fewer postings). The latter is presumably the "mobile" version. I am using a desktop PC (disclosing my geezerhood).
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Old August 18th 17, 08:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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This is just a suggestion (and I speak for myself here) but it seems to me it should be the job of a contest manager (not the CD) to report (or delegate this function to someone else) on the contest. The exception to the rule of course, is the CD and Scorer are responsible for uploading daily results to the SSA website.

We now know that very few SSA members visit the website on a regular basis. Of those who do visit, most are individuals who race who are checking on results, etc. Moreover, the SSA's website does not lend itself well to hosting digital media.

I have had several conversations with organizers, and other volunteers who've helped with reporting from contests in the past and its clear to me that FB is the most efficient way of posting information, videos, and photographs about a contest in real-time. Having said that, some members choose not to participate/use FB. Unfortunately, unless the SSA paid staff to regularly update a blog there's no easy way to do any form of qualitative reporting and/or publish any human interest pieces coming out of the contests than to have pre-approved volunteers post to a Public FB pages (and possibly corresponding YouTube Channels) that are created and hosted by the Contest Manager of the respective contests. Moreover, this gives the SSA and a panel of digital media editors (i.e., volunteers) the ability to repost selected pieces (including videos, interviews, photographs, etc) to its network of subscribers.

Lastly, the "information page" of every sanctioned contest should provide readers a link to that contest's respective Facebook, Instagram, and YouTube Channels. Likewise, such channels should remain property of the SSA and the content should fall under the SSA's policies on uploading media, etc.

While much of what I'm suggesting may cause heated debate among some SSA members these are pragmatic solutions, and even with imperfect execution will likely lead to greater promotion of the sport.

Respectfully,

Chris Schrader
SSA Director Region 6
Chairperson of the SSA's Growth & Retention Committee

P.S. If this gets read by Competition Committee members, please feel free to contact me about this. These topics need to be addressed going forward and a plan executed by 2018 which insures greater reporting of such events.
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Old August 18th 17, 08:33 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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This is just a suggestion (and I speak for myself here) but it seems to me it should be the job of a contest manager (not the CD) to report (or delegate this function to someone else) on the contest. The exception to the rule of course, is the CD and Scorer are responsible for uploading daily results to the SSA website.

We now know that very few SSA members visit the website on a regular basis. Of those who do visit, most are individuals who race who are checking on results, etc. Moreover, the SSA's website does not lend itself well to hosting digital media.

I have had several conversations with organizers, and other volunteers who've helped with reporting from contests in the past and its clear to me that FB is the most efficient way of posting information, videos, and photographs about a contest in real-time. Having said that, some members choose not to participate/use FB.

Unfortunately, unless the SSA paid staff to regularly update a blog there's no easy way to do any form of qualitative reporting and/or publish any human interest pieces coming out of the contests.

My belief is the Contest Director should have pre-approved volunteers post to a Public FB pages (and possibly corresponding YouTube Channels), that are created and hosted by the Contest Manager of the respective contests. These volunteers may be crew, local club members, pilots, etc involved in the contest. Doing so gives the SSA its panel of digital media editors (volunteers), the ability to repost selected pieces (including videos, interviews, articles, tweet sized FB comments, photographs, etc) to its network of subscribers.

Lastly, the "information page" of every sanctioned contest should provide readers a link to that contest's respective Facebook, Instagram, and YouTube Channels. Likewise, such channels should remain property of the SSA and the content should fall under the SSA's policies on uploading media, etc.

While much of what I'm suggesting may cause heated debate among some SSA members these are pragmatic solutions, and even with imperfect execution will likely lead to greater promotion of the sport.

Respectfully,

Chris Schrader
SSA Director Region 6
Chairperson of the SSA's Growth & Retention Committee

P.S. If this gets read by Competition Committee members, please feel free to contact me about this. These topics need to be addressed going forward and a plan executed by 2018 which insures greater reporting of such events.

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Old August 18th 17, 08:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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I forgot to suggest protocols for tracking. While this is a heated topic among many, tracking has exploded in Europe and elsewhere and has lead to greater promotion and interest in the sport.

Sean Fidler has spent a lot of time researching the issue from a technical standpoint. While I haven't had a chance to speak with him lately, I fully support the concept of live tracking in racing.

I realize some think this is a tool used solely for leaching but tracking is what makes this sport visual to everyone else who isn't competing. The sport will die unless we start replacing Baby-Boomers with GenX and Millenials fast! This is one way to generate interest in a sport you cannot see from the ground except in limited circumstances, and at the start and finish points of the race.

In any case, a link to a live tracking site, preferably one adopted by the rest of the world would be appropriate on each and every contest's information page and corresponding website.

- Chris Schrader


 




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