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Old October 17th 03, 03:23 PM
Grantland
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(B2431) lied:

snip

"Out of 556 important functionaries of the Bolshevik State. . .
There Were in 1918-1919: 457 Jews
17 Russians, 2 Ukrainians, 11 Armenians, 35 Letts, 15 Germans, 1
Hungarian, 10 Georgians, 3 Poles, 3 Finns, 1 Karaim."

The Last Days of the Romanovs, by Robert Wilton. Introduction by Mark
Weber. Institute for Historical Review, 1993.

"The whole record of Bolshevism in Russia is indelibly impressed with
the stamp of alien invasion. The murder of the Tsar, deliberately
planned by the Jew Sverdlov (who came to Russia as a paid agent of
Germany) and carried out by the Jews Goloshchekin, Syromolotov,
Safarov, Voikov and Yurovsky, is the act not of the Russian people,
but of this hostile invader."ibid


snip a bunch of drivel

Even if what you say about Jews being the killers of the Romanovs, a major
force in the Bolshevik revolution etc. That doesn't have anything to do with
what was said about Stalin's butchery. Sure Stalin wouldn't have been in power
if not for the October Revolution etc. but he was also antisemitic, anti God,
exnophobic, paranoid, sociopathic and a mass murderer in the extreme.

Your claim that the Jews were invaders is false. Jews had been in Eastern
Europe and Russia for a very long time. The ones who lived in Russia were just
as Russian as any other citizen.

The source you cited probably finds Jews behind every tree and blames them for
everything negative he percieves.

Stop blaming the Germans, Jews, foreigners etc. for the slaughter of many
millions of human beings by the Soviets with Stalin as head. Next you will
blame the Chinese Communist revolution, the Great Leap Forward and Cultural
Revolution with the millions of associated deaths on Jews.

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired


Groups search result 4 for ZIONISM versus BOLSHEVISM churchill


Zionism versus Bolshevism.

Illustrated Sunday Herald

February 8, 1920, page 5

Mr Churchill's authorship of this article has been
authenticated by one of the world's leading Churchill
bibliographers, Richard Heinzkill, of the University
of Eugene, Oregon.

A Struggle for the Soul of the Jewish People

By the Rt. Hon. Winston S. Churchill.

SOME people like Jews and some do not; but no
thoughtful man can doubt the fact that they are beyond
all question the most formidable and the most
remarkable race which has ever appeared in the world.

And it may well be that this same astounding race may
at the present time be in the actual process of
producing another system of morals and philosophy, as
malevolent as Christianity was benevolent, which, if
not arrested would shatter irretrievably all that
Christianity has rendered possible. It would almost
seem as if the gospel of Christ and the gospel of
Antichrist were destined to originate among the same
people; and that this mystic and mysterious race had
been chosen for the supreme manifestations, both of
the divine and the diabolical.

The National Russian Jews, in spite of the
disabilities under which they have suffered, have
managed to play an honourable and successful part in
the national life even of Russia. As bankers and
industrialists they have strenuously promoted the
development of Russia's economic resources, and they
were foremost in the creation of those remarkable
organisations, the Russian Co-operative Societies. In
politics their support has been given, for the most
part, to liberal and progressive movements, and they
have been among the staunchest upholders of friendship
with France and Great Britain.



International Jews.

In violent opposition to all this sphere of Jewish
effort rise the schemes of the International Jews. The
adherents of this sinister confederacy are mostly men
reared up among the unhappy populations of countries
where Jews are persecuted on account of their race.
Most, if not all, of them have forsaken the faith of
their forefathers, and divorced from their minds all
spiritual hopes of the next world. This movement among
the Jews is not new. From the days of
Spartacus--Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down
to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa
Luxembourg (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United
States), this world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow
of civilisation and for the reconstitution of society
on the basis of arrested development, of envious
malevolence, and impossible equality, has been
steadily growing. It played, as a modern writer, Mrs.
Webster, has so ably shown, a definitely recognisable
part in the tragedy of the French Revolution. It has
been the mainspring of every subversive movement
during the Nineteenth Century; and now at last this
band of extraordinary personalities from the
underworld of the great cities of Europe and America
have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their
heads and have become practically the undisputed
masters of that enormous empire.



Terrorist Jews.

There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the
creation of Bolshevism and an the actual bringing
about of the Russian Revolution: by these
international and for the most part atheistic Jews. It
is certainly a very great one; it probably outweighs
all others. With the notable exception of Lenin, the
majority of the leading figures are Jews. Moreover,
the principal inspiration and driving power comes from
the Jewish leaders. Thus Tchitcherin, a pure Russian,
is eclipsed by his nominal subordinate Litvinoff, and
the influence of Russians like Bukharin or Lunacharski
cannot be compared with the power of Trotsky, or of
Zinovieff, the Dictator of the Red Citadel
(Petrograd), or of Krassin or Radek -- all Jews. In
the Soviet institutions the predominance of Jews is
even more astonishing. And the prominent, if not
indeed the principal, part in the system of terrorism
applied by the Extraordinary Commissions for Combating
Counter-Revolution has been taken by Jews, and in some
notable cases by Jewesses.

The same evil prominence was obtained by Jews in the
brief period of terror during which Bela Kun ruled in
Hungary. The same phenomenon has been presented in
Germany (especially in Bavaria), so far as this
madness has been allowed to prey upon the temporary
prostration of the German people. Although in all
these countries there are many non-Jews every whit as
bad as the worst of the Jewish revolutionaries, the
part played by the latter in proportion to their
numbers in the population is astonishing.



"Protector of the Jews."

Needless to say, the most intense passions of revenge
have been excited in the breasts of the Russian
people. Wherever General Denikin's authority could
reach, protection was always accorded to the Jewish
population, and strenuous efforts were made by his
officers to prevent reprisals and to punish those
guilty of them. So much was this the case that the
Petlurist propaganda against General Denikin denounced
him as the Protector of the Jews. The Misses Healy,
nieces of Mr. Tim Healy, relating their personal
experiences in Kieff, have declared that to their
knowledge on more than one occasion officers who
committed offences against Jews were reduced to the
ranks and sent out of the city to the front. But the
hordes of brigands by whom the whole vast expanse of
the Russian Empire is becoming infested do not
hesitate. to gratify their lust for blood and for
revenge at the expense of the innocent Jewish
population whenever an opportunity occurs. The brigand
Makhno, the hordes of Petlura and of Gregorieff, who
signalised their every success by the most brutal
massacres, everywhere found among the half-stupefied,
half-infuriated population an eager response to
anti-Semitism in its worst and foulest forms. The fact
that in many cases Jewish interests and Jewish places
of worship are excepted by the Bolsheviks from their
universal hostility has tended more and more to
associate the Jewish race in Russia with the
villainies which are now being perpetrated.



A Home for the Jews.

Zionism offers the third sphere to the political
conceptions of the Jewish race. In violent contrast to
international communism.

Zionism has already become a factor in the political
convulsions of Russia, as a powerful competing
influence in Bolshevik circles with the international
communistic system. Nothing could be more significant
than the fury with which Trotsky has attacked the
Zionists generally, and Dr. Weissmann in particular.
The cruel penetration of his mind leaves him in no
doubt that his schemes of a world-wide communistic
State under Jewish domination are directly thwarted
and hindered by this new ideal, which directs the
energies and the hopes of Jews in every land towards a
simpler, a truer, and a far more attainable goal. The
struggle which is now beginning between the Zionist
and Bolshevik Jews is little less than a struggle for
the soul of the Jewish people.

The article is reproduced without editing apart from
typographical


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Here is a direct quote from the correspondence of Karl
Marx with another Jew, Baruch Levy, quoted in the "La
Revue de Paris," June 1, 1928, page 574:

"In the new organization of mankind, the children of
Israel [the Jews] will spread over the whole surface
of the earth and will become everywhere, without
opposition, the leading element, especially if they
can impose upon workings classes the firm control of
some of the them. The governments of the nations
forming the Universal Republic will pass without
effort into the hands of the Jews under the cover of
the victory of the proletariat, private property will
then be suppressed by the rulers of Jewish race, who
will everywhere control public funds. Thus will be
realized the Talmudic promise that, when come the
times of the Messiah, Jews will possess the wealth of
all peoples of the world".


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

In the Congressional Record, published by the United
States Government Printing Office, Proceedings of the
House, 1957, page 8559 you can read the following:

"Israel Cohen, a leading Communist in England, in his
A Racial Program For the Twentieth Century, wrote [in
1912]:

'We must realize that our Party's most powerful weapon
is racial tension. By propounding into consciousness
of the dark races that for centuries they have have
been oppressed by the whites, we can mould them to the
program of the Communist Party. In America, we will
aim for subtle victory. While inflaming the Negro
minority against the whites , we will instill into the
whites a guilt complex for their exploitation of the
Negroes. We will aid the Negroes to rise to prominence
in every walk of life, in the professions and in the
world of sports and entertainment. With this prestige,
the Negro will be able to intermarry with the whites
and begin a process which will deliver America into
our hands'."

Ads
  #2  
Old October 17th 03, 03:29 PM
Grantland
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(B2431) lied:

snip

"Out of 556 important functionaries of the Bolshevik State. . .
There Were in 1918-1919: 457 Jews
17 Russians, 2 Ukrainians, 11 Armenians, 35 Letts, 15 Germans, 1
Hungarian, 10 Georgians, 3 Poles, 3 Finns, 1 Karaim."

The Last Days of the Romanovs, by Robert Wilton. Introduction by Mark
Weber. Institute for Historical Review, 1993.

"The whole record of Bolshevism in Russia is indelibly impressed with
the stamp of alien invasion. The murder of the Tsar, deliberately
planned by the Jew Sverdlov (who came to Russia as a paid agent of
Germany) and carried out by the Jews Goloshchekin, Syromolotov,
Safarov, Voikov and Yurovsky, is the act not of the Russian people,
but of this hostile invader."ibid


snip a bunch of drivel

Even if what you say about Jews being the killers of the Romanovs, a major
force in the Bolshevik revolution etc. That doesn't have anything to do with
what was said about Stalin's butchery. Sure Stalin wouldn't have been in power
if not for the October Revolution etc. but he was also antisemitic, anti God,
exnophobic, paranoid, sociopathic and a mass murderer in the extreme.

Your claim that the Jews were invaders is false. Jews had been in Eastern
Europe and Russia for a very long time. The ones who lived in Russia were just
as Russian as any other citizen.

The source you cited probably finds Jews behind every tree and blames them for
everything negative he percieves.

Stop blaming the Germans, Jews, foreigners etc. for the slaughter of many
millions of human beings by the Soviets with Stalin as head. Next you will
blame the Chinese Communist revolution, the Great Leap Forward and Cultural
Revolution with the millions of associated deaths on Jews.

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired


Groups search result 4 for ZIONISM versus BOLSHEVISM churchill


Zionism versus Bolshevism.

Illustrated Sunday Herald

February 8, 1920, page 5

Mr Churchill's authorship of this article has been
authenticated by one of the world's leading Churchill
bibliographers, Richard Heinzkill, of the University
of Eugene, Oregon.

A Struggle for the Soul of the Jewish People

By the Rt. Hon. Winston S. Churchill.

SOME people like Jews and some do not; but no
thoughtful man can doubt the fact that they are beyond
all question the most formidable and the most
remarkable race which has ever appeared in the world.

And it may well be that this same astounding race may
at the present time be in the actual process of
producing another system of morals and philosophy, as
malevolent as Christianity was benevolent, which, if
not arrested would shatter irretrievably all that
Christianity has rendered possible. It would almost
seem as if the gospel of Christ and the gospel of
Antichrist were destined to originate among the same
people; and that this mystic and mysterious race had
been chosen for the supreme manifestations, both of
the divine and the diabolical.

The National Russian Jews, in spite of the
disabilities under which they have suffered, have
managed to play an honourable and successful part in
the national life even of Russia. As bankers and
industrialists they have strenuously promoted the
development of Russia's economic resources, and they
were foremost in the creation of those remarkable
organisations, the Russian Co-operative Societies. In
politics their support has been given, for the most
part, to liberal and progressive movements, and they
have been among the staunchest upholders of friendship
with France and Great Britain.



International Jews.

In violent opposition to all this sphere of Jewish
effort rise the schemes of the International Jews. The
adherents of this sinister confederacy are mostly men
reared up among the unhappy populations of countries
where Jews are persecuted on account of their race.
Most, if not all, of them have forsaken the faith of
their forefathers, and divorced from their minds all
spiritual hopes of the next world. This movement among
the Jews is not new. From the days of
Spartacus--Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down
to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa
Luxembourg (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United
States), this world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow
of civilisation and for the reconstitution of society
on the basis of arrested development, of envious
malevolence, and impossible equality, has been
steadily growing. It played, as a modern writer, Mrs.
Webster, has so ably shown, a definitely recognisable
part in the tragedy of the French Revolution. It has
been the mainspring of every subversive movement
during the Nineteenth Century; and now at last this
band of extraordinary personalities from the
underworld of the great cities of Europe and America
have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their
heads and have become practically the undisputed
masters of that enormous empire.



Terrorist Jews.

There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the
creation of Bolshevism and an the actual bringing
about of the Russian Revolution: by these
international and for the most part atheistic Jews. It
is certainly a very great one; it probably outweighs
all others. With the notable exception of Lenin, the
majority of the leading figures are Jews. Moreover,
the principal inspiration and driving power comes from
the Jewish leaders. Thus Tchitcherin, a pure Russian,
is eclipsed by his nominal subordinate Litvinoff, and
the influence of Russians like Bukharin or Lunacharski
cannot be compared with the power of Trotsky, or of
Zinovieff, the Dictator of the Red Citadel
(Petrograd), or of Krassin or Radek -- all Jews. In
the Soviet institutions the predominance of Jews is
even more astonishing. And the prominent, if not
indeed the principal, part in the system of terrorism
applied by the Extraordinary Commissions for Combating
Counter-Revolution has been taken by Jews, and in some
notable cases by Jewesses.

The same evil prominence was obtained by Jews in the
brief period of terror during which Bela Kun ruled in
Hungary. The same phenomenon has been presented in
Germany (especially in Bavaria), so far as this
madness has been allowed to prey upon the temporary
prostration of the German people. Although in all
these countries there are many non-Jews every whit as
bad as the worst of the Jewish revolutionaries, the
part played by the latter in proportion to their
numbers in the population is astonishing.



"Protector of the Jews."

Needless to say, the most intense passions of revenge
have been excited in the breasts of the Russian
people. Wherever General Denikin's authority could
reach, protection was always accorded to the Jewish
population, and strenuous efforts were made by his
officers to prevent reprisals and to punish those
guilty of them. So much was this the case that the
Petlurist propaganda against General Denikin denounced
him as the Protector of the Jews. The Misses Healy,
nieces of Mr. Tim Healy, relating their personal
experiences in Kieff, have declared that to their
knowledge on more than one occasion officers who
committed offences against Jews were reduced to the
ranks and sent out of the city to the front. But the
hordes of brigands by whom the whole vast expanse of
the Russian Empire is becoming infested do not
hesitate. to gratify their lust for blood and for
revenge at the expense of the innocent Jewish
population whenever an opportunity occurs. The brigand
Makhno, the hordes of Petlura and of Gregorieff, who
signalised their every success by the most brutal
massacres, everywhere found among the half-stupefied,
half-infuriated population an eager response to
anti-Semitism in its worst and foulest forms. The fact
that in many cases Jewish interests and Jewish places
of worship are excepted by the Bolsheviks from their
universal hostility has tended more and more to
associate the Jewish race in Russia with the
villainies which are now being perpetrated.



A Home for the Jews.

Zionism offers the third sphere to the political
conceptions of the Jewish race. In violent contrast to
international communism.

Zionism has already become a factor in the political
convulsions of Russia, as a powerful competing
influence in Bolshevik circles with the international
communistic system. Nothing could be more significant
than the fury with which Trotsky has attacked the
Zionists generally, and Dr. Weissmann in particular.
The cruel penetration of his mind leaves him in no
doubt that his schemes of a world-wide communistic
State under Jewish domination are directly thwarted
and hindered by this new ideal, which directs the
energies and the hopes of Jews in every land towards a
simpler, a truer, and a far more attainable goal. The
struggle which is now beginning between the Zionist
and Bolshevik Jews is little less than a struggle for
the soul of the Jewish people.

The article is reproduced without editing apart from
typographical


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Here is a direct quote from the correspondence of Karl
Marx with another Jew, Baruch Levy, quoted in the "La
Revue de Paris," June 1, 1928, page 574:

"In the new organization of mankind, the children of
Israel [the Jews] will spread over the whole surface
of the earth and will become everywhere, without
opposition, the leading element, especially if they
can impose upon workings classes the firm control of
some of the them. The governments of the nations
forming the Universal Republic will pass without
effort into the hands of the Jews under the cover of
the victory of the proletariat, private property will
then be suppressed by the rulers of Jewish race, who
will everywhere control public funds. Thus will be
realized the Talmudic promise that, when come the
times of the Messiah, Jews will possess the wealth of
all peoples of the world".


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

In the Congressional Record, published by the United
States Government Printing Office, Proceedings of the
House, 1957, page 8559 you can read the following:

"Israel Cohen, a leading Communist in England, in his
A Racial Program For the Twentieth Century, wrote [in
1912]:

'We must realize that our Party's most powerful weapon
is racial tension. By propounding into consciousness
of the dark races that for centuries they have have
been oppressed by the whites, we can mould them to the
program of the Communist Party. In America, we will
aim for subtle victory. While inflaming the Negro
minority against the whites , we will instill into the
whites a guilt complex for their exploitation of the
Negroes. We will aid the Negroes to rise to prominence
in every walk of life, in the professions and in the
world of sports and entertainment. With this prestige,
the Negro will be able to intermarry with the whites
and begin a process which will deliver America into
our hands'."

  #4  
Old October 19th 03, 02:31 PM
Michael Petukhov
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Default 50% of NAZI oil was supplied from US

http://www1.iraqwar.ru/iraq-read_art...=16866&lang=ru

(in russian)

The article discuss the oil balance of NAZI Germany in 37 - june 44.
The funny side is that some 50% of oil and petrolium products
were supplied by US based companies (the standard oil of New Jersey,
the standard oil of California and the Davis oil company) mainly via
Spain. This includes 100% of oil supply for NAZI subs operating in
Atlantic. All these operations were authorised by US government.

Michael
  #5  
Old October 19th 03, 03:27 PM
Fred J. McCall
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(Michael Petukhov) wrote:

:
http://www1.iraqwar.ru/iraq-read_art...=16866&lang=ru
:
in russian)
:
:The article discuss the oil balance of NAZI Germany in 37 - june 44.
:The funny side is that some 50% of oil and petrolium products
:were supplied by US based companies (the standard oil of New Jersey,
:the standard oil of California and the Davis oil company) mainly via
:Spain. This includes 100% of oil supply for NAZI subs operating in
:Atlantic. All these operations were authorised by US government.

That's because we were a NEUTRAL until the end of 1941, Michael. You
do understand what that means, don't you?

Hell, we traded with Stalin, too, and he was at least as big a butcher
as Hitler was.


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territory."
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Old October 19th 03, 05:14 PM
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Michael Petukhov schrieb:

http://www1.iraqwar.ru/iraq-read_art...=16866&lang=ru

(in russian)

The article discuss the oil balance of NAZI Germany in 37 - june 44.
The funny side is that some 50% of oil and petrolium products
were supplied by US based companies (the standard oil of New Jersey,
the standard oil of California and the Davis oil company) mainly via
Spain. This includes 100% of oil supply for NAZI subs operating in
Atlantic. All these operations were authorised by US government.


Care to mention, who the other big supplier of oil to Germany until 1941
was?

Jörg



Michael


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Old October 19th 03, 06:04 PM
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"Michael Petukhov" wrote in message
om
Michael


How many tonnes of supplies did the Nazis recieve thanks to the Molotov/von
Ribentropp accord? Soviet supply trains were still going west while the
Nazi war machine was rolling across the Polish frontier, Komrad Mikey.

Nazi officers co-trained with Soviet military officers in the 30's.

Stalin and Hitler planned to carve up Poland, of course.

Then there was the fact that the Reds did nothing while Japan massacred
hundreds of thousands of Chinese in the '30s. Stalin only declared war on
Japan *after* Japan had lost, just to gain Kamchatka. 100% fact.

Face it, your nation committed far worse villiany during the Second World
War than any other nation except perhaps Germany.

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Old October 19th 03, 06:43 PM
Keith Willshaw
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"Michael Petukhov" wrote in message
om...
http://www1.iraqwar.ru/iraq-read_art...=16866&lang=ru

(in russian)

The article discuss the oil balance of NAZI Germany in 37 - june 44.
The funny side is that some 50% of oil and petrolium products
were supplied by US based companies (the standard oil of New Jersey,
the standard oil of California and the Davis oil company) mainly via
Spain. This includes 100% of oil supply for NAZI subs operating in
Atlantic. All these operations were authorised by US government.

Michael


Prior to 1939 the USA was indeed the largest supplier of
oil to Germany, from 1939 to this route was blocked due
to the RN blockade of German ports. From 1939 to the start
of operation Barabarossa the largest supplier of oil to Germany
was the USSR.

After this date Germany was reliant on Rumanian supplies
and synthetic fuel. While some smuggling from Spain via
France may have occurred it was minimal. For one thing
Spains imports were very carefully monitored and for another
the infrastructure meant large scale transportation of oil
was impossible. With Spain having a different railway gauge
and no possibility of water transport oil would have to go by trucks
over the Pyrenees

What is certain is that Germany was desperately short of
oil throughout the latter part of the war and the western allies
launched a bombing campaign that devastated the German
oil industry. Oil was so short by 1944 that draft animals
were used to tow aircraft around the Luftwaffe airfields.

By 1944 less than 20% of the fuel used by the German
military machine came from crude oil, the remainder came
from synthesising oil from coal using the Bergius process
and the Fischer-Tropsch process at plants that were
mostly run by IG Farben

Troll Rating 7/10

A good effort but not good enough.

Keith


  #9  
Old October 19th 03, 07:18 PM
kirill
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"Fred J. McCall" wrote:

(Michael Petukhov) wrote:

:
http://www1.iraqwar.ru/iraq-read_art...=16866&lang=ru
:
in russian)
:
:The article discuss the oil balance of NAZI Germany in 37 - june 44.
:The funny side is that some 50% of oil and petrolium products
:were supplied by US based companies (the standard oil of New Jersey,
:the standard oil of California and the Davis oil company) mainly via
:Spain. This includes 100% of oil supply for NAZI subs operating in
:Atlantic. All these operations were authorised by US government.

That's because we were a NEUTRAL until the end of 1941, Michael. You
do understand what that means, don't you?


Dipwad loser. The British weren't neutral and you were their alleged
allies. Retard.

Hell, we traded with Stalin, too, and he was at least as big a butcher
as Hitler was.


Another self-appointed expert on nothing spewing drivel. Hitler and his
allies killed 27 million Soviet citizens including 18 million civilians
(the average civilian to soldier death ratio for WWII was 2:1). Basically
all the estimates of deaths in the USSR after the revolution that come
up with the 25 million dead figure include the civil war that killed
10 million people (Stalin wasn't in charge but Lenin and Trotsky were)
and the forced collectivization famines (Ukraine, Kazakhstan and Russia)
where part of the blaim for the famine rests with scorched earth tactics
by farmers resisting expropriation (i.e. burning of crops and killing
of livestock).

Nothing beats Hitler in the number of state crime deaths in the USSR.
Nothing beats Hitler for the number of state crime deaths in the
rest of Europe either.
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Old October 19th 03, 07:21 PM
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Jörg Bihlmayr wrote:

Michael Petukhov schrieb:

http://www1.iraqwar.ru/iraq-read_art...=16866&lang=ru

(in russian)

The article discuss the oil balance of NAZI Germany in 37 - june 44.
The funny side is that some 50% of oil and petrolium products
were supplied by US based companies (the standard oil of New Jersey,
the standard oil of California and the Davis oil company) mainly via
Spain. This includes 100% of oil supply for NAZI subs operating in
Atlantic. All these operations were authorised by US government.


Care to mention, who the other big supplier of oil to Germany until 1941
was?


Pathetic attempt at diversion from a lamer. The USSR was a big supplier
of grain to Germany before 1941. It simply does not compare in the sort
of industrial and oil assistance offered the Nazis by eager western
companies (mainly American ones such as Ford and GM).
 




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