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Europeans are way ahead of US in competition using the Club Class Rules. If
we expect to compete with them in this class we need to score our US regional contests using the Club Class Handicap Rules. I suggest all Sports Class competitors be given the option to be scored using Club Class Handicaps along with our Sports Class Handicaps. If the US ever gets serious about expecting to compete with Europe in this class, we will need to have competition in the US using the rule. Bob Fidler "MC" wrote in message ... Any thoughts on the idea of creating a Club Class similar to the model used in Europe? Mike |
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Bob Fidler wrote:
Europeans are way ahead of US in competition using the Club Class Rules. If we expect to compete with them in this class we need to score our US regional contests using the Club Class Handicap Rules. I suggest all Sports Class competitors be given the option to be scored using Club Class Handicaps along with our Sports Class Handicaps. It is not possible to give "all Sports Class competitors" the option to use Club Class handicap rules, as many are flying gliders that not permitted in FAI Club Class. Of course, it seems quite sensible to calculate a separate score for those who compete in Sports Class using Club Class ships, and to select the US Club Class Team based only on Club Class scores... Marc |
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We got one, its called Sports Class. My God, we now have something like 8 classes, the last thing we need is ANOTHER CLASS. JJ JJ-You took the words right out of my mouth....but then I started thinking about this. What if classes were created by demand? Right now how many active Open Class racers are there? 10-20? How many Club Class'ers might there be? On the other hand I think Sports Class is great...but look at Parown...plenty of guys not able to get in...you got to be rated damn near 90. I know this may sound sacreligous to some...but why are we trying to limit the number of racers? Since less the 10% of SSA'ers race, I would think one would want to grow this niche. |
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I know this may sound sacreligous to some...but why are we trying to limit the number of racers? Since less the 10% of SSA'ers race, I would think one would want to grow this niche. The limiting came from a 15 meter contest where something like 80 contestants were allowed and we has 4 mid-airs (1 fatality). It was wisely decided to limit our contests to 65. Parowan is limited to 50 due to limited parking and runway crowding (landing) The Club Class and 2-seater class works in europe because there is a bunch of those ships available (from the neumerous clubs) In the US our ships are 98% privately owned and one can enter sports class where you can "fly what you brung". JJ |
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Nyal Williams wrote:
Please enumerate these 8 or so classes; this is a surprising number to me. Almost like we have become the Special Olympics of Soaring. In no particluar order: 1) Standard 2) 15 Meter 3) 18 Meter 4) Unlimited (actually, 750 KG or less) 5) Two Place (under 20 meter span) 6) Sports (sort of like Club, but without the limited range of HCs) 7) Motorglider 8) World Class 9) Senior (Over Age 55) 10) 1-26 All these have a Nationals. So, JJ missed a few. Steve Leonard |
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1) Standard
... 10) 1-26 All these have a Nationals. So, JJ missed a few. Technically, the 1-26 Association makes it own rules for its (international) Championships, not SSA, let alone FAI, although I take the broader sense of "we" and "having" a Nationals, in which case you might even go on to Vintage (VSA), Aerobatics (IAC/EAA) or Intercollegiate (CSA -- ask me about it)... I really only bring this up to point out that, by contrast, SSA does have an official Nationals scheme for FAI-inspired X/C soaring classes... 11) Juniors (including Rudy Mozer Champion trophy) 12) Women with "the" Nationals being a pseudo-contest of best scores obtained at ANY SSA-sanctioned Nationals (past Junior Champions have done their thing in World Class, Sports, 15m, Std...). --JHC |
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How about a Ex-military, over 70, class? Oops, that
would include 7V and KS. OK, how about Rerited military, over 70? No that still leaves KS. OK, now I got it................ Retired military bomb-aimers, over 70, class? Bet I just found a class I can win. :) JJ |
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Wasn't Kimo single-seat ground attack? I recall him touting the
advanatages of dumb bombs on 60 Minutes (over the Maverick). That would make him a defacto bomb aimer, no? Looks like you need one more layer of insulation, JJ. John Sinclair wrote: How about a Ex-military, over 70, class? Oops, that would include 7V and KS. OK, how about Rerited military, over 70? No that still leaves KS. OK, now I got it................ Retired military bomb-aimers, over 70, class? Bet I just found a class I can win. :) JJ |
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OOOHHH...I think you may be onto something here JJ...
A class for ras posters only? Or maybe Kennedy assassination conspiracy believers? Lots of possibilities.... In response to the other parallel thread....my last post may have been unclear...I am not suggesting more entries allowed per contest...rather races being set up for the most contestants...ie a 50 contestant National Club Class vs a 15 contestant Open Class Nat... But then I fall into the category of non-racer making suggestions for something I don't participate in....so I will refrain from further ideas.... At 19:00 03 April 2005, John Sinclair wrote: How about a Ex-military, over 70, class? Oops, that would include 7V and KS. OK, how about Rerited military, over 70? No that still leaves KS. OK, now I got it................ Retired military bomb-aimers, over 70, class? Bet I just found a class I can win. :) JJ |
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