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"C Kingsbury" wrote in message ink.net... "Spockstuto" wrote in message ... Your tax dollars at work Objectively speaking, the #1 job of the TSA is to prevent another 9/11-style hijacking. While we can argue that Thousands Standing Around is at turns rude, inefficient, and as kafkaesque as every other bureaucracy, we have not had another 9/11. I've traveled ~300k miles commercial since 9/11 so I know what a pain it is. Perhaps the TSA has nothing to do with the fact that we haven't seen another suicide hijacking here. Also, it's worth keeping in mind that Muslim does not always equal Arab. Leaving aside the one-off nutcases like Richard Reid, Jose Padilla, or that jackass kid from Marin, some of the most violent terrorists in the world today can be found in the archipelagoes of Southeast Asia. Some of them were Irish too mainly funded through US organisations. A case of double standards |
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wrote in message ... On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 19:05:30 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll" wrote: wrote in message . .. Above average intelligence? The opposite, actually. Your evidence is...??? Kerry's statements. |
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wrote in message ... Am I to assume that you are below evidence intelligence based on the statements you have made here? No. |
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wrote in message ... Am I to assume that you are below evidence intelligence based on the statements you have made here? Typo here. Change "evidence" to "average". I assumed that's what you meant. |
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You gotta be kidding....
wrote in message ... Am I to assume that you are below evidence intelligence based on the statements you have made here? |
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"C Kingsbury" wrote in message ink.net... "Spockstuto" wrote in message ... Your tax dollars at work Objectively speaking, the #1 job of the TSA is to prevent another 9/11-style hijacking. While we can argue that Thousands Standing Around is at turns rude, inefficient, and as kafkaesque as every other bureaucracy, we have not had another 9/11. I've traveled ~300k miles commercial since 9/11 so I know what a pain it is. Perhaps the TSA has nothing to do with the fact that we haven't seen another suicide hijacking here. Also the law of unintended consequences applies. Every time I pull out my laptop, remove my belt and take off my shoes while juggling my wallet and coat and am in other ways inconvenienced (arrive 90-120 mins before flight) I am forcible reminded of the actions of the enemies of America which have made this necessary. Hard to imagine much better propaganda for our side. These new systems and regulations are so powerful in that way that I imagine this will be a "forever war". Howard --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.818 / Virus Database: 556 - Release Date: 12/17/2004 |
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Howard Nelson wrote:
Also the law of unintended consequences applies. Every time I pull out my laptop, remove my belt and take off my shoes while juggling my wallet and coat and am in other ways inconvenienced (arrive 90-120 mins before flight) I am forcible reminded of the actions of the enemies of America which have made this necessary. Personally, in such sitations I'm forciably reminded of how much I prefer to take my own plane. -- Frank Stutzman (who never much cared for the airlines before 9/11) Bonanza N494B "Hula Girl" Hood River, OR |
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"Dave S" wrote in message
ink.net... Unfortunately, "effective" is also known as "racial profiling". If they singled out the following for close scruitiny, the legal system in our country would not permit it: I should hope not. It's much easier to decide it's worth it for millions of innocent people to suffer indignities and loss of freedom if *you're* assured not to be among them. If you have to share the burden, you're more likely to protest against excessive intrusions. Young adult and middle age adult non-resident arab appearing men with Arabic surnames. Then your profiling will miss Richard Reid (for example), a British citizen of white and Jamaican descent with a non-Arab surname. (Some people think he has an "Arab appearance", but if so it's coincidental, as that is not his heritage.) This is the profile of the group that committed the 9/11 atrocities and is the target population for recruiting by terrorist causes. Pilots also figure prominently among the group that committed the 9/11 atrocities. In fact, the percentage of pilots in the US who carried out the 9/11 attacks is greater than the percentage of Muslims in the US who carried out the attacks. So if you were to have selected a pilot at random for screening (without regard to religion or ethnicity), you'd be more likely to have selected a 9/11 hijacker than you'd be if instead you were to have selected a Muslim at random for screening (without regard to pilot status). --Gary |
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"Gary Drescher" wrote in message ... Pilots also figure prominently among the group that committed the 9/11 atrocities. In fact, the percentage of pilots in the US who carried out the 9/11 attacks is greater than the percentage of Muslims in the US who carried out the attacks. So if you were to have selected a pilot at random for screening (without regard to religion or ethnicity), you'd be more likely to have selected a 9/11 hijacker than you'd be if instead you were to have selected a Muslim at random for screening (without regard to pilot status). Were the perpetrators of the 9/11 atrocities pilots, or were they terrorists that had received sufficient flight training for that specific operation? |
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