Stealthy air to air missile?

In article , Henry J Cobb wrote:

Is anybody planning a stealth AAM that uses a turbojet?

The only recent jet powered AAM project I can think of is
the Teledyne Ryan MALI (Miniature Air Launched cruise
missile Interceptor). I don't think it's supposed to be
stealthy -- both because it's a derivative of a decoy and
its intended targets.

It can be noted that in the series of projects which led
to Meteor one thing which was worked on was to reduce the
radar cross section of the missiles' exhaust.
--
Urban Fredriksson http://www.canit.se/%7Egriffon/
A boundary between the known and the unknown always exists.

"John R Weiss" wrote:
Given its speed and short time of flight, an IR AAM is already stealthy except
for the exhaust plume.

What about those 4 radar corner reflectors they use for fins ?


;-D

A missle that used a conical tailcone with thrust vectoring
would be pretty radar-stealthy though.


OTOH, if the exhaust plume is your first and only indicator of the missile
launch, you may well be too late for evasion...

Definition of a bad day : as you eject to avoid the AAM's
impact, it breaks lock and re-acquires on your seat's plume...




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In article , wrote:

In article , Henry J Cobb
wrote:

Is anybody planning a stealth AAM that uses a turbojet?

The only recent jet powered AAM project I can think of is
the Teledyne Ryan MALI (Miniature Air Launched cruise
missile Interceptor). I don't think it's supposed to be
stealthy -- both because it's a derivative of a decoy and
its intended targets.

Sometimes, turnabout is fair play. When I played Advanced Dungeons &
Dragons on a regular basis, I used to drive the dungeonmaster crazy by
having a character develop seemingly innocent spells -- that mimicked
something in ECM, ESM or ECCM, and creating havoc with his carefully
constructed magical traps.

He flatly refused one proposed spell, but the preceding posts reminds me
of it. Assume a stealthy drone that deliberately has flaws in its
stealth characteristics. Now, let me explain the proposed spell. For
those who never played the game, there are "illusionary" spells that if
believed by a character, can do physical damage even though they are
immaterial -- rather like voodoo dreams while awake. A simple example
would be to see an illusion of a spike-filled hole -- if you believe
it's there, you won't attempt to walk over it.

Things get interesting when a character, for various game-specific
reasons, successfully "disbelieves an illusion", In my example, the
character would be told that he sees something wrong with the image --
the stakes don't cast shadows, or something like that. The illusion just
becomes sort of shadowy and he goes safely through it.

My spell, which might very well have an EW stealth counterpart, was
"suggest illusion". One cast a spell onto a real object (e.g., a trench
full of spikes), such that if one believed the illusion, they would see
what apparently was a successfully disbelieved illusion, and confidently
stride right into the spikes. If the disbelieved the illusion of a
disbelieved illusion, they would at least get verrrrrry paranoid.

So if one sent in a drone that gave radar returns suggestive of a
stealthy aircraft that, say, had a door flapping, or some
radar-absorbent paint chipped off, it might suggest to the defenders
that it actually was a high-priority stealth platform.