757 lands on EWR taxiway by mistake

Morgans wrote:
It happens at OSH about once a year, on 18/36, but they land on Papa,
and do not catch it in time, and actually land.

It happened to me on my first trip to OSH... I was in the flare and the
controllers informed me that I was not over 18R, but rather over the
taxiway... A quick side slip and I saved it and landed on 18R...

"Morgans" wrote in message
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"Jay Beckman" wrote

It's entirely possible. I did it (more than once actually) while
training for my Private certificate.

Lined up perfectly for what I was certain was RWY 4R when in fact it was
a taxiway. Fortunately, I discovered my error in plenty of time to slide
over a bit.

It happens at OSH about once a year, on 18/36, but they land on Papa, and
do not catch it in time, and actually land.
--
Jim in NC

Over at Palm Springs (PSP) they have the word T A X I W A Y painted
vertically in very, very large yellow letters on the taxiway that is between
the two runways.

Jay B

More juicy stuff. Seems like the pilot tried to cover it up:

"The controller handling the flight turned his attention to other
traffic. When he checked again on Flight 1883, Halleran said, he saw
the jet rolling slowly on Taxiway Zulu, just north of Runway 29. That
was a little unusual - if the plane were headed to the terminals, it
would likely have used a taxiway to the south, Halleran explained. So
the controller radioed the pilot to ask what happened. According to
Halleran, the pilot answered: 'I just cleared the runway. Now I'm
taxiing west on Zulu.'"

"'The controller didn't think much of it at that point,' Halleran said.
But then, the tower got a call from a frightened employee at a Port
Authority building next to the taxiway. 'We just had some airplane go
by on Taxiway Zulu real quick,' the caller said. The controller
notified his supervisor. In a radio conversation with the supervisor,
the pilot quickly admitted he'd missed the runway and landed on the
taxiway, Halleran said."

"The cockpit voice recorder would have picked up any talk between the
pilot and co-pilot. But the recorder operates on a half-hour loop, and
the plane was sent on other flights before the voice recording could be
removed, officials said."

http://www.nypost.com/seven/11012006..._sanderson.htm

"Grumman-581" wrote in message
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Morgans wrote:
It happens at OSH about once a year, on 18/36, but they land on Papa, and do
not catch it in time, and actually land.

It happened to me on my first trip to OSH... I was in the flare and the
controllers informed me that I was not over 18R, but rather over the
taxiway... A quick side slip and I saved it and landed on 18R...

What year?

You should hear the radio chatter light up when someone does that. The flagmen
"really" get nervous, and looking for a place to run! g
--
Jim in NC

Morgans wrote:
What year?

2002, IIRC...

You should hear the radio chatter light up when someone does that. The
flagmen "really" get nervous, and looking for a place to run! g

There wasn't any other planes on the taxiway, nor anyone standing on
it... That's why I thought that it could have been one of the runways...
I had known that one of the taxiways had been converted into a runway,
but I didn't remember which one... They had changed to using 18/36 at
the last minute while I was along the path from Ripon... I couldn't
remember whether the actual taxiway was on the east or the west, but I
figured that if I landed on the middle strip of asphalt, I had a chance
of actually being on 18L in case the taxiway was on the east whereas if
I chose the furtherest west strip of asphalt, either I would be on a
taxiway or on the runway and since there wasn't any aircraft on that
strip of asphalt, it was safer to venture there than possibly venturing
onto what might be the wrong runway... If I had seen an aircraft taxiing
or one of the ground vehicles or something, I was prepared to either
abort the landing or shift to the left for the next strip of asphalt...
Turns out that "something" was the controller telling me that that was
the taxiway... Oh well, he at least congratulated me on my side slip to
the right runway...

I prefer narrower runways for light aircraft. It's easier to judge the
flare height. Others?

I find that to be true too.

Jose
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Morgans wrote:



It happens at OSH about once a year, on 18/36, but they land on Papa,
and do not catch it in time, and actually land.

If it's going to happen, I can actually see it as an easier mistake to
make in daylight.

I find the difference between the two even more obvious at night, when
edge lighting, sequenced approach lights, touchdown zone lighting,
etc... are all in operation.

"B A R R Y" wrote in message
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If it's going to happen, I can actually see it as an easier mistake to
make in daylight.

Especially at OSH where one of the taxiways is converted into a runway
anyway... It's not *whether* you might be landing on a taxiway, but *if* you
are going to be landing on the *correct* one...

I find the difference between the two even more obvious at night, when
edge lighting, sequenced approach lights, touchdown zone lighting,
etc... are all in operation.

Hmmm... Let's extend the OSH arrivals to night... That should make for a
little more adrenaline in flying the approach... grin

"Plane with red and green wingtip lights, rock your wings"... snicker

Grumman-581 wrote:


"Plane with red and green wingtip lights, rock your wings"... snicker


How cool that would look from the tower!

All those lights moving together.

"B A R R Y" wrote in message
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Grumman-581 wrote:


"Plane with red and green wingtip lights, rock your wings"... snicker


How cool that would look from the tower!

All those lights moving together.

Sort of like the one about the fighter pilot named Sam on patrol near Hanoi
who gets jumped by a MiG...

"Sam, BREAK RIGHT...!!!"

....as every aircraft within radio range all pull simultaneous "Power Bat
Turns" to the right.

Jay B