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On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 19:12:59 GMT, "Matt Wiser"
wrote: (ArtKramr) wrote: I'll start that one off with the P-39 Aircobra. Any more? Regards, Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer Here's a few: TBD Devastator F2A Buffalo B-32 Dominator F-111B F11F Tiger AM-1 Mauler F-20 Tigershark YB-40 and YB-41 gunships of B-17 and B-24 Mitushibshi A7M Me-163 (killed more of its own pilots than Allied aircrew) TBY Seawolf F-90 F-107 F-108 The F-108 was cancelled because 1. $$$$ and 2. that's about the time something better came along - the YF-12A. Which was also never purchased. |
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On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 19:12:59 GMT, "Matt Wiser"
wrote: F-107 One of my favorite "what if?" planes, just for the intake placement alone... http://www.globalaircraft.org/planes/f-107_ultra_sabre.pl Pretty little thing, though. Great pic at the bottom of that page. -- cirby at cfl.rr.com Remember: Objects in rearview mirror may be hallucinations. Slam on brakes accordingly. |
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"Matt Wiser" wrote: (ArtKramr) wrote: I'll start that one off with the P-39 Aircobra. Any more? Regards, Here's a few: TBD Devastator F2A Buffalo B-32 Dominator F-111B F11F Tiger AM-1 Mauler F-20 Tigershark YB-40 and YB-41 gunships of B-17 and B-24 Mitushibshi A7M Me-163 (killed more of its own pilots than Allied aircrew) TBY Seawolf F-90 F-107 F-108 The beautiful (but flawed) Chance-Vought Cutlass |
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"Matt Wiser" wrote:
Here's a few: TBD Devastator Respectfully disagree. While slow, obsolete and vulnerable, the 15 TBDs of VT-8 played a crucial role in a crucial battle of the WW2 Pacific campaign. They have to be given at least an "assist" for their decoy role, thus allowing the sinking of IJN carriers at Midway. ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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ArtKramr wrote:
: I'll start that one off with the P-39 Aircobra. Any more? I've often wondered about the Aircobra: What if it had a supercharger like the ones fitted to the P-38? What would it's hi alt performance have been then? Same for the P-40, I suppose. --- Gregg "Improvise, adapt, overcome." Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics Phone: (617) 496-1558 |
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Gregg Germain wrote: ArtKramr wrote: : I'll start that one off with the P-39 Aircobra. Any more? I've often wondered about the Aircobra: What if it had a supercharger like the ones fitted to the P-38? What would it's hi alt performance have been then? The P-63 Kingcobra was pretty decent a high altitude, but other than its general shape, shared almost nothing with the Airacobra. It was pretty much the "bugfix" version of the P-39. -- cirby at cfl.rr.com Remember: Objects in rearview mirror may be hallucinations. Slam on brakes accordingly. |
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Gregg Germain wrote: ArtKramr wrote: : I'll start that one off with the P-39 Aircobra. Any more? I've often wondered about the Aircobra: Westland Whirlwind, maybe - went nowhere much (apart from France, repeatedly, at low level until they ran out of examples) because the Peregrine engine was an early orphan. Fairey Barracuda was a "nearly" - if only it had the Fairey P.24 Prince double-engine (same could be said for many mid-war designs - it might have been a better developmental bet than the awful Vulture, and possibly better than the Sabre) - for naval a/c, particularly, the option of shutting half the engine down for cruise was appealing. Any of the late WW1 designs left orphaned by the ABC Dragonfly debacle. -- Andy Breen ~ Interplanetary Scintillation Research Group http://users.aber.ac.uk/azb/ "Time has stopped, says the Black Lion clock and eternity has begun" (Dylan Thomas) |
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"Gregg Germain" wrote in message ... I've often wondered about the Aircobra: What if it had a supercharger like the ones fitted to the P-38? What would it's hi alt performance have been then? Same for the P-40, I suppose. The XP-39 did have a type B-5 turbocharger, but there just wasn't room in the P-39 or P-40 for a supercharger installation like the P-38's. One of the reasons the P-47 was as big as it was was to accommodate the turbocharger and intercooler and all the ductwork they required, and that was an aircraft that didn't also require a coolant radiator. The turbocharger was deleted from the P-39 primarily because the Army didn't think it needed a point-defense interceptor, so the plane was adapted for low-medium altitude work. That decision has been criticized since the war, but had they chosen to develop the installation the same way they did the P-38 they'd have had to get by with fewer and even lower performing airplanes in the early war years and have had a short-legged airplane that hauled little armament. The airframe was just too small. |
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