Schempp-Hirth 2a/2b cockpit fit vs ASW-20?

I have a friend with an ASW-20 who is looking at two Schempp-Hirth gliders - one is a 2a and the other is a 2b, and wondering if he will fit. Anyone out there have experience with sizes of these two cockpits relative to his current ASW-20?

TIA

Frank (TA)

The 2a is much, much smaller than the asw-20.

The 2b is close size wise but still a bit smaller/less comfortable
than the asw-20.

On Thursday, April 5, 2012 7:15:47 PM UTC-4, joesimmers wrote:
The 2a is much, much smaller than the asw-20.

The 2b is close size wise but still a bit smaller/less comfortable
than the asw-20.

Thanks Joe!

On Apr 5, 5:15*pm, joesimmers wrote:
The 2a is much, much smaller than the asw-20.

The 2b is close size wise but still a bit smaller/less comfortable
than the asw-20.

5'10 and 180 pounds is about maximum for the "a" cockpits. Fitting
requires personal adjustment. Not all the fancy stuff like seat backs
and side vents.

If the goal is racing the "a" is nice, for everyday flying and resale
the "b" is better.

I transitioned from the ASW-20 to the Discus 2b. I'm just under 6' and 200 pounds (14 stone+ to you Brits). Coming from a long line of blacksmiths, I have rather wide shoulders!

The ASW-20 was a tad roomier than the Discus 2b, but I find my new ship very comfortable and quite wide enough. Also the ventilation is definitely a lot better. I have sat in a 2a - briefly! I would not survive long.

It all depends on your body shape.

You'll only miss the flaps when landing.

Mike

I am just under 6ft 2" and i fit in a 2a fine. However, i need thin shoes
and a
thin top. But it is worth it if your are racing as the B really isnt that
competitive.

B


At 00:01 06 April 2012, Tim Taylor wrote:
On Apr 5, 5:15=A0pm, joesimmers wrote:
The 2a is much, much smaller than the asw-20.

The 2b is close size wise but still a bit smaller/less comfortable
than the asw-20.

5'10 and 180 pounds is about maximum for the "a" cockpits. Fitting
requires personal adjustment. Not all the fancy stuff like seat backs
and side vents.

If the goal is racing the "a" is nice, for everyday flying and resale
the "b" is better.

PS. I had to have the winch hook removed.

B

At 00:01 06 April 2012, Tim Taylor wrote:
On Apr 5, 5:15=A0pm, joesimmers wrote:
The 2a is much, much smaller than the asw-20.

The 2b is close size wise but still a bit smaller/less comfortable
than the asw-20.

5'10 and 180 pounds is about maximum for the "a" cockpits. Fitting
requires personal adjustment. Not all the fancy stuff like seat backs
and side vents.

If the goal is racing the "a" is nice, for everyday flying and resale
the "b" is better.

I'm 5'9" and 220lb and fly a Ventus a with a winch hook. The fit is snug and I have to get quite reclined but am comfy for 4-5 hours at a time.

I've tried Ben's 2a for size and with no winch hook there was a lot more room. I believe the rudder pedals extend further forward in the 2s.

Biggest thing I've found with the 20 (and the 27) is there isn't as much room for my feet if the pedals are run too far forward. Haven't had that problem in any of the Schempp single seaters I've tried

Colin

Hi Ben,

How much winch took removal did increase the Va room? I have one
(SN143) with a snug, barely comfortable fit. Still have to find the
right parachute, though.

Wladimir

Schempp "a" cockpits are made for Klaus/Tilo Holighaus ;-)

Let's just say that if you are over the nominal 1.78m and 75kg it is
going to be tight.

The "b" is designed for bigger - but not huge people.

Anything Schempp with a 2 and a b is going to be the one to go for - an
x is even better...

Bruce

(1.88m and 110kg - apart from the money - you can see why I have a
Kestrel...)

On 2012/04/05 11:50 PM, wrote:
I have a friend with an ASW-20 who is looking at two Schempp-Hirth gliders - one is a 2a and the other is a 2b, and wondering if he will fit. Anyone out there have experience with sizes of these two cockpits relative to his current ASW-20?

TIA

Frank (TA)

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Bruce Greeff
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