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captain jepp
Does anybody know why it so happened that there's literally
nobody else out there besides jepp in aeronautical charting business? TERPS people develop the procedures, FAA test-flies them, and all this info is publicly available. Yet, the only commercial enterprise harvesting there is jepp. Between NACO and them there's a substantial gap in terms of pricing and packaging of services. Why is it empty? Andrey |
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captain jepp
Andrey Serbinenko wrote:
Does anybody know why it so happened that there's literally nobody else out there besides jepp in aeronautical charting business? TERPS people develop the procedures, FAA test-flies them, and all this info is publicly available. Yet, the only commercial enterprise harvesting there is jepp. Between NACO and them there's a substantial gap in terms of pricing and packaging of services. Why is it empty? Liability? |
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captain jepp
well, liability doesn't stop people from, say, making new avionics,
and putting all this procedural info into its computers, which has even more potential to cause damage if it has errors in it. paper charts are still very much in use, and it seems strange that nobody comes up with better ways of putting them together, or making various "products" out of them for every possible pilot's income tranche. everybody i know agrees that jepp is overpriced, and you usually wind up buying more from them than you actually need, because their products are structured that way. Emily wrote: Andrey Serbinenko wrote: Does anybody know why it so happened that there's literally nobody else out there besides jepp in aeronautical charting business? TERPS people develop the procedures, FAA test-flies them, and all this info is publicly available. Yet, the only commercial enterprise harvesting there is jepp. Between NACO and them there's a substantial gap in terms of pricing and packaging of services. Why is it empty? Liability? |
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captain jepp
And a very small market with high labor costs.
"Emily" wrote in message . .. | Andrey Serbinenko wrote: | Does anybody know why it so happened that there's literally | nobody else out there besides jepp in aeronautical charting | business? TERPS people develop the procedures, FAA test-flies | them, and all this info is publicly available. Yet, the only | commercial enterprise harvesting there is jepp. Between NACO and | them there's a substantial gap in terms of pricing and packaging | of services. Why is it empty? | | Liability? |
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captain jepp
"Andrey Serbinenko" wrote in message Does anybody know why it so happened that there's literally nobody else out there besides jepp in aeronautical charting Jeppesen started so early on (early 30s), and his little notebooks were so relevant and to the point, that it didn't take much for the Jepps to become the de facto industry standard, even after the government started publishing their own charts. In almost 40 years I haven't met anyone, not 1, who prefers the gov charts over Jepps. All the data is public available, but I believe certain elements of formatting and presentation are copyrighted. You could start publishing your own chart service, I'm sure, but the tough part would be convincing virtually every pilot and airline in the world to switch over to a different format chart. |
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captain jepp
Simply Put "tradition" it the reason behind eveything. Noone want to
move to something new, even if its better. There are some old time pilots who don't even use GPS. I just think that pilots don't like change. This is way Sporty, asa, gliem, and jepp are the only manufactures that make it. Pilot are afriad to try something new. But i do think that the new generation will be changing it. |
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captain jepp
"John Gaquin" wrote in message
. .. [...] All the data is public available, but I believe certain elements of formatting and presentation are copyrighted. You could start publishing your own chart service, I'm sure, but the tough part would be convincing virtually every pilot and airline in the world to switch over to a different format chart. It would be more than tough. It would be impossible. A person would probably never do better than a niche competitor to Jeppesen, unless they came up with some huge innovation that was so important, it made a significant difference in the use of the charts. Even then, they won't come close to "convincing virtually every" user. But they don't need to. I don't see any reason someone couldn't carve out that niche and make a decent living. If it can work for VFR (O'Keefe), why not IFR? Pete |
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captain jepp
Andrey Serbinenko wrote:
Does anybody know why it so happened that there's literally nobody else out there besides jepp in aeronautical charting business? TERPS people develop the procedures, FAA test-flies them, and all this info is publicly available. Yet, the only commercial enterprise harvesting there is jepp. Between NACO and them there's a substantial gap in terms of pricing and packaging of services. Why is it empty? First guess would be that there isn't enough money to be made to make it worthwhile. Matt |
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captain jepp
Right on!
"Matt Whiting" wrote in message ... | Andrey Serbinenko wrote: | | Does anybody know why it so happened that there's literally | nobody else out there besides jepp in aeronautical charting | business? TERPS people develop the procedures, FAA test-flies | them, and all this info is publicly available. Yet, the only | commercial enterprise harvesting there is jepp. Between NACO and | them there's a substantial gap in terms of pricing and packaging | of services. Why is it empty? | | First guess would be that there isn't enough money to be made to make it | worthwhile. | | Matt |
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captain jepp
their own charts. In almost 40 years I haven't met anyone, not 1, who
prefers the gov charts over Jepps. What do the military pilots use? your own chart service, I'm sure, but the tough part would be convincing virtually every pilot and airline in the world to switch over to a different I don't think you necessarily want to convince *everyone*, but there certainly may be some niche for you. Doesn't it strike you as odd that there is just one thing on the market and everybody is happy and would want nothing else? Wouldn't it be strange if there were just one company making gps receivers, and just one type of receiver, and everyone would be happy to have one and not want to even think of anything else? Is it a bad comparison? format chart. |
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