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Old September 4th 07, 08:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Rob Turk[_2_]
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Default Steve Fossett missing?

CNN reports Steve Fossett is missing.
"
Fossett took off from a private air strip known as Flying M Ranch, near
Smith Valley, 30 miles south of Yerington, Nevada, on Monday, with enough
fuel for four to five hours of flight, according to the Civil Air Patrol.
Yerington is south of Carson City, near the California border."



Let's hope for the best




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Old September 4th 07, 10:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
JohnO
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On Sep 5, 7:13 am, "Rob Turk" wrote:
CNN reports Steve Fossett is missing.
"
Fossett took off from a private air strip known as Flying M Ranch, near
Smith Valley, 30 miles south of Yerington, Nevada, on Monday, with enough
fuel for four to five hours of flight, according to the Civil Air Patrol.
Yerington is south of Carson City, near the California border."

Let's hope for the best


Anyone know what he was flying?

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Old September 4th 07, 10:40 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe
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Default Steve Fossett missing?

"JohnO" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Sep 5, 7:13 am, "Rob Turk" wrote:
CNN reports Steve Fossett is missing.
"
Fossett took off from a private air strip known as Flying M Ranch, near
Smith Valley, 30 miles south of Yerington, Nevada, on Monday, with enough
fuel for four to five hours of flight, according to the Civil Air Patrol.
Yerington is south of Carson City, near the California border."

Let's hope for the best


Anyone know what he was flying?


His blue and white Decathlon

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Old September 4th 07, 10:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Default Steve Fossett missing?


"JohnO" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Sep 5, 7:13 am, "Rob Turk" wrote:
CNN reports Steve Fossett is missing.
"
Fossett took off from a private air strip known as Flying M Ranch, near
Smith Valley, 30 miles south of Yerington, Nevada, on Monday, with enough
fuel for four to five hours of flight, according to the Civil Air Patrol.
Yerington is south of Carson City, near the California border."

Let's hope for the best


Anyone know what he was flying?


Citabria, according to AvWeb. A search of the area has been initiated.
--
Jim in NC


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Old September 6th 07, 04:21 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Default Steve Fossett missing?

Fossett had a typical ELT that apparently did not turn on or was out
of range.

I have a APRS tracker that continuously sends position/velocity info
on the ham frequency. Worked very well so far and gives peace of mind
to relatives - and useful to FAA on a flight plan. If Fosset had a
continuous tracker, the job of finding him might have been a lot
easier.

You can build an APRS tracker for about $250. A basic ham license is
easy to get.

For more info http://www.abri.com/sq2000/GPStrack.html
------------------------------------------------
SQ2000 canard, http://www.abri.com/sq2000/

On Sep 4, 2:13 pm, "Rob Turk" wrote:
CNN reports Steve Fossett is missing.
"
Fossett took off from a private air strip known as Flying M Ranch, near
Smith Valley, 30 miles south of Yerington, Nevada, on Monday, with enough
fuel for four to five hours of flight, according to the Civil Air Patrol.
Yerington is south of Carson City, near the California border."

Let's hope for the best



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Old September 6th 07, 05:32 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Default Steve Fossett missing?

wrote)
You can build an APRS tracker for about $250. A basic ham license is easy
to get.

For more info http://www.abri.com/sq2000/GPStrack.html



http://www.abri.com/sq2000/APRSBasics.txt
Interesting...

Bring a Pilot to School Day:

Can you explain how this works, like we're a class of 8th graders? We'll,
7th graders, really. See, 8th grade just started, but we're still reviewing
from last year...


Paul-Mont



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Old September 6th 07, 06:26 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Steve S.
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On Sep 5, 10:21 pm, wrote:

I have a APRS tracker that continuously sends position/velocity info
on the ham frequency.


This happens to be a topic near and dear to my uber-geeky heart. On
the one hand we have ELTs, which *hopefully* kick off when a plane
crashes. If it isn't damaged in the crash . . . if the batteries are
still good . . . if the antenna leads stay attached . . . etc. On
the other hand we have a system that is designed to tell you where the
plane is at all times, and hey, if the guy doesn't come home--play
back the recorded position data and go look in the area where the
signal stopped.

--Air-side cost . . . compared to an ELT, the things are quite
reasonable. Compared to a 406 ELT, they're peanuts.
--Ground-side cost . . . the ground side would need to get built--I
would speculate that a receiver/recorder per ATC sector would do
nicely. You could build the ground side for the entire nation for
next to nothing (when measured by gov't standards). There are guys on
this group, right now, that could design and deploy the whole ground
side without even thinking hard.
--Position data recording . . . compared to what a TIVO packs away,
setting up a system to record, say, the last 72 hours worth of
reported positions for airplanes in a given region is pretty darn
approachable. Lat/Lon, speed & altitude. That is not a lot a data.
Don't even record all of it, just record 5 minute intervals or
similar. Get fancy and make the intervals speed-sensitive. It's just
software on a PC, darn it. The amount of data is so small you could
do this on the computer the average junior high kid threw away last
week.
--Traffic avoidance . . . not only could your little ground recorder
get the signal, by golly other planes could too. Be a nice cheap way
to have live traffic in the cockpit without the ADS-B expense,
complexity and hassle.
--No electrical system? Guys at my airport without starters and
alternators are still using a little 12v batt for a radio.
--This system is a bit similar to something commercial shipping has
started doing. It's a transponder system for shipping, but instead of
being assigned a different squawk every time they go out, the have a
permanently assigned squawk. N-number anyone?
--Change the freq so you don't need the Ham ticket.

This stuff breaks my heart. It would be so simple, so cheap, so
effective, it might actually save a life (over and above the poor
track record ELT's have) and it ain't never going to happen. No one
will make money off it so no one will advocate it. I have to go for a
walk to calm down.

Stay safe, folks.

Steve.

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Old September 6th 07, 12:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Scott[_1_]
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Default Steve Fossett missing?

I believe the new 406 MHz ELT's can be hooked to a GPS and transmit
lat/long when activated. Unfortunately, the ELT may not have activated.


wrote:
Fossett had a typical ELT that apparently did not turn on or was out
of range.

I have a APRS tracker that continuously sends position/velocity info
on the ham frequency. Worked very well so far and gives peace of mind
to relatives - and useful to FAA on a flight plan. If Fosset had a
continuous tracker, the job of finding him might have been a lot
easier.

You can build an APRS tracker for about $250. A basic ham license is
easy to get.

For more info
http://www.abri.com/sq2000/GPStrack.html
------------------------------------------------
SQ2000 canard, http://www.abri.com/sq2000/

On Sep 4, 2:13 pm, "Rob Turk" wrote:

CNN reports Steve Fossett is missing.
"
Fossett took off from a private air strip known as Flying M Ranch, near
Smith Valley, 30 miles south of Yerington, Nevada, on Monday, with enough
fuel for four to five hours of flight, according to the Civil Air Patrol.
Yerington is south of Carson City, near the California border."

Let's hope for the best





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Old September 6th 07, 01:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Default Steve Fossett missing?

Fairly simple. The (2m) tracking unit has a small gps that feeds
digital signals to the attached transmitter. The signals include
latitude, longitude, speed, altitude, direction and are picked up by a
host of volunteer ham towers - digital repeaters and/or iGates. That
info is transferred to internet servers and you can easily see the
results on a Google (or other type) map on places like www.findu.com -
simplicity itself for users. I suggest that you pay another $15/yr for
a private website YourPlaneName.com where your relatives or FAA can go
to find the latest tracking.

A lot of automobile users use the system so their wives can tell where
they are (hmm?) . But their signals are often blocked by terrain. The
best performance is from aircraft - any ham digi or igate tower within
couple of hundred miles can see the signal. I have flown cross country
- remote areas - and there is rarely a break in 1 or 2 minute
reporting intervals.

Are you still gawking around. Memorize answers to some 100 ham
questions, pay the $20? fee and get a APRS tracker. It may save your
life.

On Sep 5, 11:32 pm, "Montblack" Y4_NOT!...
wrote:
Interesting...

Bring a Pilot to School Day:

Can you explain how this works, like we're a class of 8th graders? We'll,
7th graders, really. See, 8th grade just started, but we're still reviewing
from last year...

Paul-Mont



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Old September 6th 07, 03:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Bill Daniels
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Default Steve Fossett missing?

This is seriously cool stuff.

Please post this to rec.aviation.soaring. We need this in a big way.

Bill Daniels

wrote in message
oups.com...
Fossett had a typical ELT that apparently did not turn on or was out
of range.

I have a APRS tracker that continuously sends position/velocity info
on the ham frequency. Worked very well so far and gives peace of mind
to relatives - and useful to FAA on a flight plan. If Fosset had a
continuous tracker, the job of finding him might have been a lot
easier.

You can build an APRS tracker for about $250. A basic ham license is
easy to get.

For more info http://www.abri.com/sq2000/GPStrack.html
------------------------------------------------
SQ2000 canard, http://www.abri.com/sq2000/

On Sep 4, 2:13 pm, "Rob Turk" wrote:
CNN reports Steve Fossett is missing.
"
Fossett took off from a private air strip known as Flying M Ranch, near
Smith Valley, 30 miles south of Yerington, Nevada, on Monday, with enough
fuel for four to five hours of flight, according to the Civil Air Patrol.
Yerington is south of Carson City, near the California border."

Let's hope for the best





 




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