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Night VFR following highways
Mxsmanic wrote:
Gig 601XL Builder writes: We aren't talking about hovering over the highway we are talking about a VFR flight between two points. In the article that gave rise to my comment, the pilot was indeed hovering over the highway, in a helicopter. Just for the record here is your first post in this thread. Nowhere do you mention helicopters. Mxsmanic wrote: "Is it a bad idea to fly VFR at night and navigate by following highways? At night outside large cities, there doesn't seem to be much else that's visible. It seems to me that if you can clearly see the highway, it can guide you and you can get a good idea of where you are with respect to terrain, so it should work. Are there hidden dangers in this? Do night VFR pilots ever/often navigate by following highways? What other forms of visual navigation are usable at night?" Once again you show your ignorance. An engine failure in a helo hovering at 10 feet is just about the worst place that such a failure could happen. Explain. It is high enough to kill you and too low to perform a proper auto-rotation. As forward speed increases the ability to perform a proper run-on landing increases. In a run-on landing you are pretty much treating the helo like a fixed wing. |
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Night VFR following highways
Gig 601XL Builder writes:
Just for the record here is your first post in this thread. Nowhere do you mention helicopters. I said "in the article that gave rise to my comment," meaning an article to which I provided a pointer. That article described the experience of a helicopter pilot in marginal VFR at night. It is high enough to kill you and too low to perform a proper auto-rotation. Ten feet? I've seen helicopters fall to the ground from this height in videos and while the helicopters may not survive if they don't remain upright, it looks as though the occupants often can walk away from it. An engine failure would be more gentle than a simple fall. |
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Night VFR following highways
Mxsmanic wrote in
: Gig 601XL Builder writes: Just for the record here is your first post in this thread. Nowhere do you mention helicopters. I said "in the article that gave rise to my comment," meaning an article to which I provided a pointer. That article described the experience of a helicopter pilot in marginal VFR at night. It is high enough to kill you and too low to perform a proper auto-rotation. Ten feet? I've seen helicopters fall to the ground from this height in videos and while the helicopters may not survive if they don't remain upright, it looks as though the occupants often can walk away from it. An engine failure would be more gentle than a simple fall. Nope. Bertie |
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Night VFR following highways
Mxsmanic wrote:
Gig 601XL Builder writes: Just for the record here is your first post in this thread. Nowhere do you mention helicopters. I said "in the article that gave rise to my comment," meaning an article to which I provided a pointer. That article described the experience of a helicopter pilot in marginal VFR at night. And we were supposed to know that, how? It is high enough to kill you and too low to perform a proper auto-rotation. Ten feet? I've seen helicopters fall to the ground from this height in videos and while the helicopters may not survive if they don't remain upright, it looks as though the occupants often can walk away from it. An engine failure would be more gentle than a simple fall. Depends on the helo and more importantly how it lands. They are designed to handle some amount of hard landing but a hard landing can easily turn into an overturned craft and then all bets are off. Anything short of 400 feet and auto-rotation probably isn't going to be successful. |
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Night VFR following highways
Gig 601XL Builder writes:
And we were supposed to know that, how? By following the thread, and actually reading the article. |
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Night VFR following highways
Mxsmanic wrote in
: Gig 601XL Builder writes: And we were supposed to know that, how? By following the thread, and actually reading the article. Yeh. like any of your posts are worth following Bertie |
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Night VFR following highways
Mxsmanic wrote:
Gig 601XL Builder writes: And we were supposed to know that, how? By following the thread, and actually reading the article. Damn, you are an idiot. I quoted your original post and you admitted that you hadn't mentioned helos in it. |
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Gig 601XL Builder writes:
Damn, you are an idiot. I quoted your original post and you admitted that you hadn't mentioned helos in it. So? I explained where the reference came from. |
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Night VFR following highways
Mxsmanic wrote in
: Gig 601XL Builder writes: Damn, you are an idiot. I quoted your original post and you admitted that you hadn't mentioned helos in it. So? I explained where the reference came from. Nope. Bertie |
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