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How difficult is it to shoot down a helicopter?
I do apologise for the intrusion... The subject of this posting is not
nice... But I have a good reason to ask for professional advice (and I am neither a terrorist nor a common criminal): One of the most notorious criminals of Greece, managed to escape (again) by using a hijacked helicopter: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...,4042657.story This is the second time he escaped using that way. Both times, the greek policemen did nothing, because they were either corrupted/bribed or just utter wasters. My simple question is: How difficult is it to shoot down a helicopter provided that the greek policemen HAD machine guns and their distance from the helicopter was around 100 yards? A similar question to the previous one: What is the most efficient way to down a helicopter? When I was a kid, I saw a movie with Kirk Douglas (I think). He was hiding in the mountain forrests with a rifle and he was being chased by a helicopter. He aimed very carefully at the tail rotor, the pilot confessed to the copilot that he (Kirk Douglas) was attempting something very smart, and eventually when he managed to shoot at the tail, the helicopter was downed. This is the company that hires the Helicopters: http://www.interjet.gr/en/index2.asp...eid=helicopter You can see from the video that the tail rotor is not visible (as it used to be in older generation helicopters). Would it be smart enough if the policemen started shooting at the tail when the helicopter landed, so that none would be harmed and the prisoners would be unable to escape? I presume that shooting at the tail propeller could be also efficient but would it bounce many bullets? Thanks. |
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How difficult is it to shoot down a helicopter?
On Feb 23, 9:03*pm, Asteras wrote:
I do apologise for the intrusion... The subject of this posting is not nice... But I have a good reason to ask for professional advice (and I am neither a terrorist nor a common criminal): One of the most notorious criminals of Greece, managed to escape (again) by using a hijacked helicopter: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...ece-escape23-2... This is the second time he escaped using that way. Both times, the greek policemen did nothing, because they were either corrupted/bribed or just utter wasters. My simple question is: How difficult is it to shoot down a helicopter provided that the greek policemen HAD machine guns and their distance from the helicopter was around 100 yards? A similar question to the previous one: What is the most efficient way to down a helicopter? When I was a kid, I saw a movie with Kirk Douglas (I think). He was hiding in the mountain forrests with a rifle and he was being chased by a helicopter. He aimed very carefully at the tail rotor, the pilot confessed to the copilot that he (Kirk Douglas) was attempting something very smart, and eventually when he managed to shoot at the tail, the helicopter was downed. This is the company that hires the Helicopters: http://www.interjet.gr/en/index2.asp...me=helicopter_.... You can see from the video that the tail rotor is not visible (as it used to be in older generation helicopters). Would it be smart enough if the policemen started shooting at the tail when the helicopter landed, so that none would be harmed and the prisoners would be unable to escape? I presume that shooting at the tail propeller could be also efficient but would it bounce many bullets? Thanks. They shouldn't have fired at the helicopter in the first place as that recklessly endangered the hijacked pilot. You don't go and kill innocent civillians to prevent a jail break. Stupid cops! I think the tail rotor shot would be down to chance as it's a smallish moving target and it could still easily lead to a fatal accident. |
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How difficult is it to shoot down a helicopter?
On 24 Öåâ, 01:42, JohnO wrote:
They shouldn't have fired at the helicopter in the first place as that recklessly endangered the hijacked pilot. You don't go and kill innocent civillians to prevent a jail break. Stupid cops! I think that there were only "warning shots". That explains why the helicopter suffered no damage (and that is why the prisoners landed in a remote area, safely). I think the tail rotor shot would be down to chance as it's a smallish moving target and it could still easily lead to a fatal accident. Thank you for your technical feedback. Unfortunately, according to your viewpoint, the stupid/corrupt greek cops have many excuses for not doing anything to prevent the jail break. Their advocates will probably use such arguments in the court. The stupidest thing of all is that the pilot is now arrested: He will be tried for collusion, because he did not use a device to warn the police that his helicopter was hijacked. |
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How difficult is it to shoot down a helicopter?
On Feb 25, 1:02*am, Asteras wrote:
On 24 Öåâ, 01:42, JohnO wrote: They shouldn't have fired at the helicopter in the first place as that recklessly endangered the hijacked pilot. You don't go and kill innocent civillians to prevent a jail break. Stupid cops! I think that there were only "warning shots". That explains why the helicopter suffered no damage (and that is why the prisoners landed in a remote area, safely). According to news reports there's at least one bullet hole in the helicopter. So the cops are useless at shooting at best. I think the tail rotor shot would be down to chance as it's a smallish moving target and it could still easily lead to a fatal accident. Thank you for your technical feedback. Unfortunately, according to your viewpoint, the stupid/corrupt greek cops have many excuses for not doing anything to prevent the jail break. Their advocates will probably use such arguments in the court. Sometimes you just can't do anything direct. That's the nature of what was effectively a hostage situation. The stupidest thing of all is that the pilot is now arrested: He will be tried for collusion, because he did not use a device to warn the police that his helicopter was hijacked. Yet more stupidity then. Hopefully the pilot can mount a complete defense against what sounds like a vindictive and ridiculous charge. The authorities are claiming that he should have set the emergency squawk code on his transponder to indicate a hijack but the hijackers could well know about that and warn him not to. |
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How difficult is it to shoot down a helicopter?
On 23 Öåâ, 10:03, Asteras wrote:
A similar question to the previous one: What is the most efficient way to down a helicopter? When I was a kid, I saw a movie with Kirk Douglas (I think). He was hiding in the mountain forrests with a rifle and he was being chased by a helicopter. He aimed very carefully at the tail rotor, the pilot confessed to the copilot that he (Kirk Douglas) was attempting something very smart, and eventually when he managed to shoot at the tail, the helicopter was downed. I managed to find the film... It's called "Lonely are the Brave" and it was shot in 1962: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lonely_Are_the_Brave "When a helicopter joins in the chase, Burns shoots it down with his rifle by damaging its tail rotor, causing the pilot to lose control." I couldn't find the footage of the downing on line... |
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How difficult is it to shoot down a helicopter?
The crash seen in the movie shows the helicopter swooping down the side of
the mountain with plenty of forward speed to have overcome the loss of the tail rotor and fly in trail. The helicopter could have flown to a place and landed with a run on landing without crashing but that is the movie not reality. "Asteras" wrote in message ... On 23 Öåâ, 10:03, Asteras wrote: A similar question to the previous one: What is the most efficient way to down a helicopter? When I was a kid, I saw a movie with Kirk Douglas (I think). He was hiding in the mountain forrests with a rifle and he was being chased by a helicopter. He aimed very carefully at the tail rotor, the pilot confessed to the copilot that he (Kirk Douglas) was attempting something very smart, and eventually when he managed to shoot at the tail, the helicopter was downed. I managed to find the film... It's called "Lonely are the Brave" and it was shot in 1962: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lonely_Are_the_Brave "When a helicopter joins in the chase, Burns shoots it down with his rifle by damaging its tail rotor, causing the pilot to lose control." I couldn't find the footage of the downing on line... |
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