New Ministers of National Defence in Canada

"Andrew Chaplin" wrote in message
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SNIP

Then, dear Brian, you have failed to distinguish successfully between
"integration" and "unification".
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Andrew Chaplin
SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO
(If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to get "yourfinger." out.)

Just curious. If you keep the air force with only twin Heuy's, Hercs and
some P3's , build up the naval ability to transport army material,
retain some ships for defence against bad guys and ditch ASW
......strengthen our army so it can do a decent job in places like
Afghanistan......what do you have? unification, the Marine Corp ???

Allen

Brian Allardice wrote:
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Brian Allardice wrote:



Unification was and is a damned good idea...

Unless you want to be considered a usenet troll and ignored, you
had better give us some reason why you think that.


Mostly back of the house stuff, but then the military is mostly back of the
house stuff in any case. I don't particularly care what the ranks are nor what
uniforms are worn, but it would be damned silly to have 3 different guys buying
paperclips.

I suspected at first that you were somebody who knew little, if
anything, about the military and were just trolling. You have
just confirmed that suspicion. I'm not sure what you mean by
'..back of the house stuff..' but I doubt that it means anything
complimentary to the CF. I suggest that you do some research
about military organization(s) in Canada, past and present. When
you know enough about the subject to speak intelligently about it
come back and do so.

Carter

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says...

Brian Allardice wrote:

Mostly back of the house stuff, but then the military is mostly back of the
house stuff in any case. I don't particularly care what the ranks are nor
what
uniforms are worn, but it would be damned silly to have 3 different guys
buying
paperclips.

Then, dear Brian, you have failed to distinguish successfully between
"integration" and "unification".

Fair cop, guv'. You've got me bang to rights.

Cheers,
dba

In article ,
says...

I suspected at first that you were somebody who knew little, if
anything, about the military and were just trolling. You have
just confirmed that suspicion. I'm not sure what you mean by
'..back of the house stuff..' but I doubt that it means anything
complimentary to the CF.

Dear me! I suggest you do a bit of research and only then attempt to
characterise my views.

Cheers,
dba

IBM wrote:

"Darrel Newman" wrote in
able.rogers.com:

Paul Hellyer - isn't he the guy who we all wanted to trade to the
Israelis as in

"Paul Hellyer + 10,000 bolts of green cloth for a One-eyed Jew"

Which is kind of ironic seeing as how one of the more important
commanders of the Israeli war for independence was in fact a
Canadian.

And arguably more competent a general than Moshe Dyan. Dyan, however,
was certainly the better politician, at least in the Israeli setting.
--
Andrew Chaplin
SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO
(If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to get "yourfinger." out.)

"IBM" wrote in message
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"Darrel Newman" wrote in
able.rogers.com:

Paul Hellyer - isn't he the guy who we all wanted to trade to the
Israelis as in

"Paul Hellyer + 10,000 bolts of green cloth for a One-eyed Jew"

Which is kind of ironic seeing as how one of the more important
commanders of the Israeli war for independence was in fact a
Canadian.

IBM

Oh ?? Thats interesting...who was it ??

"Jack" wrote in message
news

"IBM" wrote in message
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Which is kind of ironic seeing as how one of the more important
commanders of the Israeli war for independence was in fact a
Canadian.

Oh ?? Thats interesting...who was it ??

Ben Dunkelman, late of the Queen's Own Rifles, in which he was a company
commander from Juno Beach to the Low Countries, and who left Canada after
being de-mobbed to serve as a formation commander in the Israeli army.
Unlike many others who went to Israel to support the Zionists (and I use
the term as Dunkelman would have) he had operational experience in what
we would now call combat team and battle broup operations. He only died
about two years ago. While he was prepared to fight for Israel, he
preferred to live in Canada, and was a Colonel of the Regiment for the
QOR for a term. He was a haberdasher by trade, and the family firm, Tip
Top Tailors, was the equivalent in Canada of Brooks Brothers or Moss
Bros.
--
Andrew Chaplin
SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO
(If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to get "yourfinger." out.)

On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:59:28 -0500, Andrew Chaplin wrote:

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Ben Dunkelman, late of the Queen's Own Rifles, in which he was a company
commander from Juno Beach to the Low Countries, and who left Canada after
being de-mobbed to serve as a formation commander in the Israeli army.

He was no Sir Arthur Curry but he did very well by the Israelis.
Didn't Ben Gurion want him to be Chief Of Staff at one point?

Unlike many others who went to Israel to support the Zionists (and I use
the term as Dunkelman would have) he had operational experience in what
we would now call combat team and battle broup operations. He only died
about two years ago. While he was prepared to fight for Israel, he
preferred to live in Canada, and was a Colonel of the Regiment for the
QOR for a term. He was a haberdasher by trade, and the family firm, Tip
Top Tailors, was the equivalent in Canada of Brooks Brothers or Moss
Bros.

Its my understanding that Brook's brothers were kind of
one step below carriage trade? I wouldn't put Tip Top in that
league but they certainly gave excellent value for the money
I have a closet full of their stuff because I hate shopping and
I knew they would usually have the sort of thing I wanted.

IBM

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