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"Bob McKellar" wrote in message
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He did forgive me for only being a Tin Can Pork Chop.

New expression for me... "Tin Can Pork Chop". I understand Tin Can but lost
on the "Pork Chop".

"Greasy Rider" wrote in message
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"Bob McKellar" wrote in message
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He did forgive me for only being a Tin Can Pork Chop.

New expression for me... "Tin Can Pork Chop". I understand Tin Can but
lost on the "Pork Chop".



Line officers wear a star over the rank stripes on dress blues and shoulder
boards on other uniforms.

Staff corps officers (Supply, Medical, Dental, Civil Engineer, etc.) wear
other distinctive insignia.

The Supply Corps insignia is said to resemble a pork chop, hence the
nickname. I suppose it was first used as a friendly insult, but has since
been wholeheartedly adopted by 'Chops everywhere.

Extra info #1: The insignia is oak leaves and three nuts. The Supply Corps
Officer has a spare for EVERYTHING.

Extra info #2: Supply Corps shoulder boards are asymmetrical and have a left
and right side. This would be too complicated for line officers.

http://www.navy.mil/navydata/navy_legacy_hr.asp?id=267 for staff corps
insignia

Bob McKellar

"Bob McKellar" wrote in message
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The Supply Corps insignia is said to resemble a pork chop, hence the
nickname. I suppose it was first used as a friendly insult, but has since
been wholeheartedly adopted by 'Chops everywhere.

Thanks for the education.....

Greasy Rider - aka
"Twidget- 2nd class" 1955-59

Not to be confused with Civil Engineer Corps folks who wear - and are
called - "banana leaves"...

"...not too many of us left that know what the paddle signals are...."

How about paddles traps in an F9F-6 Cougar? You nuggets probably don't even
know what a Cougar was.

The MIG 15 and Cougar jet engines were both based on the same British
design.

"OK, 3 wire"

WDA
Former Frenzied Fury (FJ-3/4B) Flyer

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"B.C. MALLAM" wrote in message
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On 6/17/07 6:32 PM, in article , "vincent
norris" wrote:

Boomerang wrote:
I'm surely not the Senior Naval Aviator (remember that? "SNA"?)
attending
to this News Group although I may be the among the oldest - first
carrier
landing on March 17, 1954 ....

CQed summer of 1950--six traps, SNJ, aboard U.S.S. Wright.
Winged Feb. 1951.

vince norris

Not as old as some but did CQ The T-28 on Antietam
Summer of '59 with paddles, not too many of us left that know what the
paddle signals are.

Also anyone know where I can find some photos of T-28 carrier landings?

B.C. Mallam


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Me again...remember going through Jet Transition at NAS (then) Olathe,
Kansas, and confronting the jet-vs-prop sink-rate problem in the F9F-5
Panther with the breakaway fence at the end of the runway that simply bent
down and sprung back up when you banged it on your first jet solo. Remember
later when the bent-wing Cougar defied everything you ever learned about
sink rate and ... well, that's a long time ago.

On 2007-06-19 17:49:27 -0400, "Boomerang" said:

Me again...remember going through Jet Transition at NAS (then) Olathe,
Kansas, and confronting the jet-vs-prop sink-rate problem in the F9F-5
Panther with the breakaway fence at the end of the runway that simply bent
down and sprung back up when you banged it on your first jet solo. Remember
later when the bent-wing Cougar defied everything you ever learned about
sink rate and ... well, that's a long time ago.

Had a good buddy who went through the Cougars in J Stage around your
time; Andy Zakrzewski; Marine driver; ended up in A4's in Nam, then
went with the FBI later on.
Andy loved the old Cougar!!
Have no fear; that ole' sink rate problem is still around. The T38 on
final can get to be a handful if you start dozing off
:-)))
Dudley Henriques

The major problem with Cougar carrier landings was not sink rate - it was
engine spool up after a bolter. Too much radial compressor rotor inertia to
quickly overcome. Problem was solved when axial compressors were introduced
in later aircraft's engines.

WDA
CDR USN Ret.

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"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
news:2007061918153716807-dhenriques@rcncom...
On 2007-06-19 17:49:27 -0400, "Boomerang" said:

Me again...remember going through Jet Transition at NAS (then) Olathe,
Kansas, and confronting the jet-vs-prop sink-rate problem in the F9F-5
Panther with the breakaway fence at the end of the runway that simply
bent
down and sprung back up when you banged it on your first jet solo.
Remember
later when the bent-wing Cougar defied everything you ever learned about
sink rate and ... well, that's a long time ago.

Had a good buddy who went through the Cougars in J Stage around your time;
Andy Zakrzewski; Marine driver; ended up in A4's in Nam, then went with
the FBI later on.
Andy loved the old Cougar!!
Have no fear; that ole' sink rate problem is still around. The T38 on
final can get to be a handful if you start dozing off
:-)))
Dudley Henriques

On 2007-06-20 13:35:19 -0400, "W. D. Allen" said:

The major problem with Cougar carrier landings was not sink rate - it was
engine spool up after a bolter. Too much radial compressor rotor inertia to
quickly overcome. Problem was solved when axial compressors were introduced
in later aircraft's engines.

WDA
CDR USN Ret.

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"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
news:2007061918153716807-dhenriques@rcncom...
On 2007-06-19 17:49:27 -0400, "Boomerang" said:

Me again...remember going through Jet Transition at NAS (then) Olathe,
Kansas, and confronting the jet-vs-prop sink-rate problem in the F9F-5
Panther with the breakaway fence at the end of the runway that simply
bent
down and sprung back up when you banged it on your first jet solo.
Remember
later when the bent-wing Cougar defied everything you ever learned about
sink rate and ... well, that's a long time ago.

Had a good buddy who went through the Cougars in J Stage around your time;
Andy Zakrzewski; Marine driver; ended up in A4's in Nam, then went with
the FBI later on.
Andy loved the old Cougar!!
Have no fear; that ole' sink rate problem is still around. The T38 on
final can get to be a handful if you start dozing off
:-)))
Dudley Henriques

The T-Bird with the J33 was a bit slow spooling up too,but of course
the runways were a tad bit longer :-)))
Dudley Henriques

On Jun 16, 6:35?pm, "Bob McKellar" wrote:

As far as "Senior" goes I can claim many conversations with Naval Aviator #
711 (My grandfather).

Any relationship to Earle Preston McKellar, NA#861 (1897-1964)??

MW