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Eric Joiner wrote:
smip

It is your
opportunity to teach those of us too young to know you in your prime
as to how you wish to be addressed and the lineage and history of
your fine airplane and the courageous exploits of those who flew
her. We know you by books and your written word. If some appear
ignorant...teach...dont bite.

Best regards,

Eric Joiner

Eric, this is a lost cause...I tried your tact on him a couple
years ago and got **** for my trouble. He's so full of himself
that you'll only get sht and abuse

"Tex Houston" wrote in message
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"Erik "Falcon" Glascoe" wrote in message
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That would be F-105 Thunderchief pilot to you, sir.

Sorry to offend you sir. Most Thunderchief pilots called the F-105 the
"Thud".

Erik

Most??? Just how many F-105 pilots do you know? There were so many
nicknames for the F-105 I don't believe there was a consensus.

Tex Houston
F-105 Controller in a former life

My friend, Col. Joe O'neill, called it a "105".

On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 20:36:31 -0400, Eric Joiner
wrote:

Tex Houston wrote:
"Erik "Falcon" Glascoe" wrote in message
. 63.158...

That would be F-105 Thunderchief pilot to you, sir.

Sorry to offend you sir. Most Thunderchief pilots called the F-105 the
"Thud".

Erik


Most??? Just how many F-105 pilots do you know? There were so many
nicknames for the F-105 I don't believe there was a consensus.

Tex Houston
F-105 Controller in a former life




Ahem...you guys might back up a little.

the guy probably has read books that call the airplane that.
I personally dont know any F-105 pilots. However i respect hell out
of the ones I have read about and may meet virtually. It is your
opportunity to teach those of us too young to know you in your prime
as to how you wish to be addressed and the lineage and history of
your fine airplane and the courageous exploits of those who flew
her. We know you by books and your written word. If some appear
ignorant...teach...dont bite.

Best regards,

Eric Joiner

Eric, I was teasing you. The airplane has been called "Thud" for a
long time. It was initially a derogatory term because of the poor
record in achieving initial operational status. It was not used by
those who flew it (with a couple of exceptions) until late '66.

Since then it has become a term of affection and respect for the
airplane. Most folks use it as an honorific not an insult.

I don't use the term and if you look through the text of "When Thunder
Rolled" you will find "Thud" only once in reference to Thud Ridge, the
mountain ridge that points from the NW directly to Hanoi.

In Palace Cobra, which is scheduled for release sometime after the
first of the year '06, the term occurs several times.

And, you can tell Tex (who I've known for many years) that you now
know at least one F-105 pilot.


Ed Rasimus
Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret)
"When Thunder Rolled"
www.thunderchief.org
www.thundertales.blogspot.com

"Erik "Falcon" Glascoe" wrote in message
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What was wrong with the weather?

I moved there from Ohio in 86. Never experinced snow like in Colorado in
Ohio. After the blizzard I'll see sunny skies on the next day.

Heh. I have a south facing driveway. Unless we get more than four or five
inches it doesn't even pay to shovel as it will all melt by the next day.

Weather in
Colorado was weird for this Buckeye. Especially when I was going to high
school there, I was like "They want me to go thru that in my electric
wheelchair??"

Denver snow was deeper than Ohio snow?


I still dunno how I went thru those winter storms without
being stuck. Guess I was lucky.

I reckon so.

Glenn D.

"Ed Rasimus" wrote in message
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Eric, I was teasing you. The airplane has been called "Thud" for a
long time. It was initially a derogatory term because of the poor
record in achieving initial operational status. It was not used by
those who flew it (with a couple of exceptions) until late '66.

Since then it has become a term of affection and respect for the
airplane. Most folks use it as an honorific not an insult.

Slight divergence - just outside of Omaha there is an F-105 on a pedestal
next to the interstate, tail numbers JJ 069. Is there a site where I can
find out the history of this a/c?

Glenn D.

"Glenn Dowdy" wrote in message
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Slight divergence - just outside of Omaha there is an F-105 on a pedestal
next to the interstate, tail numbers JJ 069. Is there a site where I can
find out the history of this a/c?

Glenn D.

Close to Ashland Nebraska actually. Some of the story can be found at
http://www.strategicairandspace.com/...ion_F-105.html . It
is just a billboard but fighter aircraft used by SAC have examples in the
museum. Absolutely a first class facility.

Regards,

Tex Houston

"Tex Houston" wrote in message
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"Glenn Dowdy" wrote in message
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Slight divergence - just outside of Omaha there is an F-105 on a pedestal
next to the interstate, tail numbers JJ 069. Is there a site where I can
find out the history of this a/c?

Glenn D.

Close to Ashland Nebraska actually. Some of the story can be found at
http://www.strategicairandspace.com/...ion_F-105.html .
It is just a billboard but fighter aircraft used by SAC have examples in
the museum. Absolutely a first class facility.

Thanks. I wished that the two young'ens were old enough to make stopping to
visit viable. Maybe in a couple of years.

Glenn D.

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 18:34:57 GMT, "Glenn Dowdy"
wrote:


"Ed Rasimus" wrote in message
.. .

Eric, I was teasing you. The airplane has been called "Thud" for a
long time. It was initially a derogatory term because of the poor
record in achieving initial operational status. It was not used by
those who flew it (with a couple of exceptions) until late '66.

Since then it has become a term of affection and respect for the
airplane. Most folks use it as an honorific not an insult.

Slight divergence - just outside of Omaha there is an F-105 on a pedestal
next to the interstate, tail numbers JJ 069. Is there a site where I can
find out the history of this a/c?

Glenn D.

I could only find one tail number with 069--It was F-105D 61-0069. The
aircraft has one MiG-17 kill on June 3, 1967, flown by Larry D.
Wiggins.

The excellent reference book, "Roll Call: Thud" says "she was once
known as 'Pussy Galore' and later 'Cherry Girl' while serving with the
355th TFW. She is preserved at the San Bernardino Air Museum"

The tail code JJ indicates the 34th TFS, which was part of the 388 TFW
at Korat. (The 355th was at Tahkli.)

So, the airplane must have been moved and a bit of artistic license
applied to the painting--or there was a period in which the airplane
was also in the 34th.

Does it have its red star on the side?


Ed Rasimus
Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret)
"When Thunder Rolled"
www.thunderchief.org
www.thundertales.blogspot.com

I grew up in Northern Ohio and left to join the Navy in 1967. For the last
30 years (I'm a tad older now) I have lived in Colorado at 8750 feet and
10,000 feet (without oxygen) and would take a Colorado winter...or summer,
anytime over an Ohio one. I've lived through the big blizzard in the mid
80's and had a six footer a couple years ago and still wouldn't go back to
Ohio, although six feet of snow in a day and a half is not something you
want to do often. He's right about the change. Denver started the weekend at
104, or something, and was in the 60's today.

--
Jim
Check current Colorado Weather at:
http://www.southparkwx.com
http://www.coniferwx.com
"Glenn Dowdy" wrote in message
...

"Erik "Falcon" Glascoe" wrote in message
. 63.158...
What was wrong with the weather?

I moved there from Ohio in 86. Never experinced snow like in Colorado in
Ohio. After the blizzard I'll see sunny skies on the next day.

Heh. I have a south facing driveway. Unless we get more than four or five
inches it doesn't even pay to shovel as it will all melt by the next day.

Weather in
Colorado was weird for this Buckeye. Especially when I was going to high
school there, I was like "They want me to go thru that in my electric
wheelchair??"

Denver snow was deeper than Ohio snow?


I still dunno how I went thru those winter storms without
being stuck. Guess I was lucky.

I reckon so.

Glenn D.

"Ed Rasimus" wrote in message
...


So, the airplane must have been moved and a bit of artistic license
applied to the painting--or there was a period in which the airplane
was also in the 34th.

Does it have its red star on the side?

Not visible at highway speeds, at least to me, I'm afraid. And I'm in no
hurry to go back to Nebraska either, especially now that CO has cooled down.

Glenn D.