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Old May 22nd 04, 06:53 PM
MLenoch
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Adrenalin suppresses some fear reactions, but it comes with its own
side-effects.


So that's what happens to me whenever I am late for dinner coming from the
airport!
(Dud: I got a copy of the airshow safety/accident book; saw your contribution;
nice work.)
VL
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Old May 22nd 04, 07:24 PM
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"MLenoch" wrote in message
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Adrenalin suppresses some fear reactions, but it comes with its own
side-effects.


So that's what happens to me whenever I am late for dinner coming from

the
airport!
(Dud: I got a copy of the airshow safety/accident book; saw your

contribution;
nice work.)
VL


Thank you Vlad. Des did a great job of getting and keeping all of us
together to do it. The total book a very well done effort and with any
luck at all, it might even save some lives. I was honored to be asked to
join the effort.
Dudley


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Old May 22nd 04, 06:57 PM
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"Viperdoc" wrote in message ...


I'd be interested in hearing how the group would have reacted to this
situation.



I would hope that the local FSDO would hear about her. I don't care
much if she kills herself through stupidity, but what about innocents
on the ground?
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Old May 22nd 04, 09:36 PM
Gene Seibel
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"Viperdoc" wrote in message ...


It was a very frustrating situation- she had nearly killed herself,
apparently knew why it had happened, and seemed to think this was a normal
activity of flying (let alone damaging her 1997 Bonanza A-36)

I'd be interested in hearing how the group would have reacted to this
situation.


Protecting everyone from themselves is an impossible job.
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Old May 22nd 04, 10:02 PM
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After losing two good friends in a crash in 1989, I vowed never agin to
remain quiet when I see something in the way a person flies that
bothers me.

Pilots do not like to be told that what they are doing/about to do is
stupid, and they tend to get upset with me, but I sleep better having
spoken my peace.

Sometimes you get through to people and they cease the behavior.
Sometimes they need the reassurance to remove any doubts they have.
Some are just too strong minded to listen.
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Old May 22nd 04, 10:12 PM
Jack Allison
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I'd be interested in hearing how the group would have reacted to this
situation


I'd have to agree w/ Eric and (hopefully) have the guts to confront the
person. Maybe they'd listen, maybe the wouldn't...but I'd feel better
knowing that I'd brought the person a different perspective (other than
their own) to the situation.

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Jack Allison
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with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
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Old May 22nd 04, 10:52 PM
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I agree in trying to speak ones mind abouot this.

Sure, someone will get upset, but at least, I would see it as my
responsibility towards innocent peopl on the ground, and in the air to warn
people like this.

However, it's important that we remember that we all have our own personal
minimums. This obviously does not comply in this cas with the thunderstorms
and extremely low cloud base, but I have seem instances where peopl would
advice 800+ hour pilots to not fly with a bit of wind, and cloud ceiling
around 1400 feet....some peopl only fly in blue skies, some have lower
minimums.

One should never fly VFR and have to get somewere on time though! You never
know if you have to divert, and if it's a serious appointment you are trying
to make, chances are you would push on further than you should if the
weather detoriates.

Frode


"Jack Allison" skrev i melding
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I'd be interested in hearing how the group would have reacted to this
situation


I'd have to agree w/ Eric and (hopefully) have the guts to confront the
person. Maybe they'd listen, maybe the wouldn't...but I'd feel better
knowing that I'd brought the person a different perspective (other than
their own) to the situation.

--
Jack Allison
PP-ASEL

"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth
with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
you will always long to return"
- Leonardo Da Vinci

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Old May 23rd 04, 12:35 AM
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Frode Berg wrote:

Sure, someone will get upset, ...


So what? Do you know this person? What do you care what she thinks about you?

George Patterson
I childproofed my house, but they *still* get in.
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Old May 23rd 04, 01:43 AM
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"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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Frode Berg wrote:

Sure, someone will get upset, ...


So what? Do you know this person? What do you care what she thinks about

you?

Exactly. There's a guy in the MSP area who got a vacation from flying
because I turned his sorry ass in to the local FSDO in the Twin Cities. He
was flying over a lake at about 100 feet AGL over the top of boats and
peoples houses on the lake. 5 times.


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Old May 23rd 04, 11:29 AM
Frode Berg
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If you would not cut in my post to the point that it changes the ,meaning of
what I wrote, other people that don't read the whole thread won't get the
impression that I'm an ignorant ***...

:-)

This is excactly what I wrote, but off course deleting the rest of my
sentence instead of leaving iot there makes me look like an idiot.

Thanks,

Frode



"Newps" skrev i melding
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"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
...


Frode Berg wrote:

Sure, someone will get upset, ...


So what? Do you know this person? What do you care what she thinks about

you?

Exactly. There's a guy in the MSP area who got a vacation from flying
because I turned his sorry ass in to the local FSDO in the Twin Cities.

He
was flying over a lake at about 100 feet AGL over the top of boats and
peoples houses on the lake. 5 times.




 




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