Best Single Pilot IFR Plane

On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 15:13:25 GMT, "Mike Rapoport"
wrote:


"Roger Halstead" wrote in message
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On 07 Dec 2003 16:10:52 GMT, (paul k. sanchez)
If I can make a slight correction on your posting. TBM700 C2 model is
currently
$2.6, we don't use the "m" word. 300 ktas is available only at FL260 ISA
@ 100%

:-))

torque, and quite honestly with a lot of antennas not present. Generaly
we fly
the ship at normal cruise FL280, FL290, and FL310. Torque is 85% at
FL280, 83%
at FL290, and 79% at FL310, all at ISA of course. Speeds that we see are
265 to
285 ktas. Fuel flow 47 to 41 gph.

Hummm...with a turbocharged IO-540 I could get that out of my G-III
(as in glasair, not gulfstream), but in the G-III it's a tad more
difficult to get up and stretch your legs, or take a "potty break".
:-))

You'll have to fix the return add due to dumb virus checkers
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair?)
www.rogerhalstead.com

Wish you well.

paul k. sanchez, cfii-mei

265 to 285 in a Glasair III?
Yup! Course thats MPH and not knots.
POH lists 282 at 8,000 using a stock 300 HP K1A5 Lycombing at 75%
That's pretty close to the figures I was seeing when I flew N540HP at
Oshkosh.
OTOH the turbocharged version will cruise at something like 360 plus
MPH at 25,000.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair?)
www.rogerhalstead.com
Return address modified due to dumb virus checkers


Mike
MU-2

"Roger Halstead" wrote in message
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On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 15:13:25 GMT, "Mike Rapoport"
wrote:


"Roger Halstead" wrote in message
.. .
On 07 Dec 2003 16:10:52 GMT, (paul k. sanchez)
If I can make a slight correction on your posting. TBM700 C2 model is
currently
$2.6, we don't use the "m" word. 300 ktas is available only at FL260
ISA
@ 100%

:-))

torque, and quite honestly with a lot of antennas not present.
Generaly
we fly
the ship at normal cruise FL280, FL290, and FL310. Torque is 85% at
FL280, 83%
at FL290, and 79% at FL310, all at ISA of course. Speeds that we see
are
265 to
285 ktas. Fuel flow 47 to 41 gph.

Hummm...with a turbocharged IO-540 I could get that out of my G-III
(as in glasair, not gulfstream), but in the G-III it's a tad more
difficult to get up and stretch your legs, or take a "potty break".
:-))

You'll have to fix the return add due to dumb virus checkers
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair?)
www.rogerhalstead.com

Wish you well.

paul k. sanchez, cfii-mei

265 to 285 in a Glasair III?
Yup! Course thats MPH and not knots.
POH lists 282 at 8,000 using a stock 300 HP K1A5 Lycombing at 75%
That's pretty close to the figures I was seeing when I flew N540HP at
Oshkosh.
OTOH the turbocharged version will cruise at something like 360 plus
MPH at 25,000.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair?)
www.rogerhalstead.com
Return address modified due to dumb virus checkers


Mike
MU-2



I'm not doubting the numbers but I thought that a Lancair IV was the fastest
and could reach a maxmium of 295kts but *cruised* at about 240kts.

Mike
MU-2

L-IVs cruise faster than 240. In a builder's mind it'll do 300 kts,
but in reality probably 280ish. Still not bad for 16-18 GPH. 'Course
the turbines'll go faster. But they're realistically a 2 seat
airplane.

-Jon C.

"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message
news:JWlBb.6974
I'm not doubting the numbers but I thought that a Lancair IV was the
fastest
and could reach a maxmium of 295kts but *cruised* at about 240kts.

Mike
MU-2

On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 15:32:57 GMT, "Mike Rapoport"
wrote:

snip

265 to 285 in a Glasair III?
Yup! Course thats MPH and not knots.
POH lists 282 at 8,000 using a stock 300 HP K1A5, or K1H5 Lycombing at 75%
That's pretty close to the figures I was seeing when I flew N540HP at
Oshkosh.
OTOH the turbocharged version will cruise at something like 360 plus
MPH at 25,000.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair?)
www.rogerhalstead.com
Return address modified due to dumb virus checkers


Mike
MU-2



I'm not doubting the numbers but I thought that a Lancair IV was the fastest
and could reach a maxmium of 295kts but *cruised* at about 240kts.

The normally aspirated G-III cruises at something close to 260 MPH, or
226 knots at roughly 8000 feet. The turbocharged G-III, with the 2
foot wingtip extensions for the high aspect ratio, is considerably
faster at altitude. BUT and it's a really big but... there have only
been couple built and I don't believe it's offered as part of the kit.
It is also quite different than the standard G-III fire wall forward
(including the firewall), at least the one being built just north of
me is. One owner (see the builders group www.glasair.org ) says he
gets 228 knots at 8,000 and 75%

The turbocharged version of the G-III runs the same HP as the IV-P,
but is smaller and unpressurized. That sucker will really haul at
altitude, if the pilot and passenger can stand it.

Even sucking on Oxygen, I don't like to go that high.

But, to redress... if you count currently offered models and versions
then yes, the IV-P would be the fastest model offered as the
turbocharged G-III (as far as I can determine) is now a builder mod
rather than a factory option.

I'm going to have to ask if anyone on there is flying a turbocharged
model and what they get for speeds.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair?)
www.rogerhalstead.com
Return address modified due to dumb virus checkers


Mike
MU-2

"Roger Halstead" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 15:32:57 GMT, "Mike Rapoport"
wrote:

snip

265 to 285 in a Glasair III?
Yup! Course thats MPH and not knots.
POH lists 282 at 8,000 using a stock 300 HP K1A5, or K1H5 Lycombing at
75%
That's pretty close to the figures I was seeing when I flew N540HP at
Oshkosh.
OTOH the turbocharged version will cruise at something like 360 plus
MPH at 25,000.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair?)
www.rogerhalstead.com
Return address modified due to dumb virus checkers


Mike
MU-2



I'm not doubting the numbers but I thought that a Lancair IV was the
fastest
and could reach a maxmium of 295kts but *cruised* at about 240kts.

The normally aspirated G-III cruises at something close to 260 MPH, or
226 knots at roughly 8000 feet. The turbocharged G-III, with the 2
foot wingtip extensions for the high aspect ratio, is considerably
faster at altitude. BUT and it's a really big but... there have only
been couple built and I don't believe it's offered as part of the kit.
It is also quite different than the standard G-III fire wall forward
(including the firewall), at least the one being built just north of
me is. One owner (see the builders group www.glasair.org ) says he
gets 228 knots at 8,000 and 75%

The turbocharged version of the G-III runs the same HP as the IV-P,
but is smaller and unpressurized. That sucker will really haul at
altitude, if the pilot and passenger can stand it.

Even sucking on Oxygen, I don't like to go that high.

But, to redress... if you count currently offered models and versions
then yes, the IV-P would be the fastest model offered as the
turbocharged G-III (as far as I can determine) is now a builder mod
rather than a factory option.

I'm going to have to ask if anyone on there is flying a turbocharged
model and what they get for speeds.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair?)
www.rogerhalstead.com
Return address modified due to dumb virus checkers


Mike
MU-2


Thanks for the education. I have a Murphy Moose fast build kit on order
that will only go about 145mph but will get off the ground in 600' with
1400lbs of fuel and people.

Mike
MU-2