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  #11  
Old December 2nd 03, 07:12 PM
Mike Rapoport
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My insurance doesn't require anything except annual recurrent training at
one of two places. Other than that requirement, there are no restrictions.

Mike
MU-2






"markjen" wrote in message
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The original poster said that he wanted to be able to get places on a
schedule. What that requires depends on where you are and where you are
going, but to me it requires radar, known ice, high altitude capability

and
range.


I think there are two issues he suitability for single-pilot use and
capability to tackle weather. The two sorta work against one another -
probably the easiest to fly plane IFR is something like an 182, but you're
not going to be tackling much weather. Conversely, a plane like Mike's

MU-2
is very capable, but you've got to ante up to very high proficiency
standards. (Mike, are your insurers Ok with you flying alone in clouds?
I've heard they're starting to get very sticky about turbines twins being
flown single-pilot.)

In reality, we don't choose planes that are good for single-pilot IFR - we
choose planes that suit our mission (and constraints, particularly costs)
and then ante up what it takes to fly them safely IFR. For me, a
non-professional IFR pilot who gets maybe 5 hours a year actual in my
non-iced heavy single, this means scrubbing a lot of flights.

I think that is the big fallacy with new instrument pilots - that they can
truly fly in any weather and can meet hard schedule committments. It

takes
a lot of airplane and a lot of training/experience to be able to
consistently tackle IFR weather with reasonable risk. I'd guess that on

any
given mission, I can make it VFR 80% of the time. IFR cuts my scrubs in
half so I can go 890% of the time, but I still have a 10% scrub rate even
with the the ticket. Ice is the big issue for me.

In reality, I use IFR more for flying security and convenience rather that


tackling weather. It's just a lot easier to file IFR and follow ATC's
instructions rather than keeping track of everything yourself, especially
with all the airspace restrictions these days.

- Mark




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Old December 2nd 03, 08:23 PM
Jeff
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maybe you should list a price range you was wanting answers for
check out what John Travoltas flies
http://www.ipilot.com/forum/message....id=42554#42554


Charles Talleyrand wrote:

There must be people on the newsgroup that fly single pilot
IFR on a regular basis. These people have a schedule to make
and would rather not miss that schedule unless necessary. These people
don't have the need to carry many passengers, but just themselves.
My question is for these people ...

What sort of planes are you flying?


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Old December 2nd 03, 09:02 PM
markjen
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half so I can go 890% [I assume you meant 90%?] of the time

Yes, 90%, sorry.

- Mark


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Old December 2nd 03, 09:18 PM
Kevin
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Jeff wrote:
maybe you should list a price range you was wanting answers for
check out what John Travoltas flies
http://www.ipilot.com/forum/message....id=42554#42554

You bet, lots in the airpark he lives in start at $350K.

/www.jumbolair.com/


Charles Talleyrand wrote:


There must be people on the newsgroup that fly single pilot
IFR on a regular basis. These people have a schedule to make
and would rather not miss that schedule unless necessary. These people
don't have the need to carry many passengers, but just themselves.
My question is for these people ...

What sort of planes are you flying?




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Old December 2nd 03, 09:26 PM
Teacherjh
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check out what John Travoltas flies
http://www.ipilot.com/forum/message....id=42554#42554

You bet, lots in the airpark he lives in start at $350K.

/www.jumbolair.com/



Had an interesting experience with jumbolair - I was going to visit my brother
who had a dog show right near the runway. I called ahead and got permssion to
use the (private) airport with my spam can and was all set to go, but my
brother also called to get permission for me, and that was vehemently denied.
Apparantly there is some discord among the owners, and my brother sent me an
urgent Email to stay away.

I never got to see him that trip.

Jose


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  #16  
Old December 2nd 03, 10:11 PM
Tom S.
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Citation CJ1!!

It ain't cheap, but it is the BEST.


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Old December 2nd 03, 11:21 PM
Jeff
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starts at 350k?
is that just the land or the house also?


Kevin wrote:

Jeff wrote:
maybe you should list a price range you was wanting answers for
check out what John Travoltas flies
http://www.ipilot.com/forum/message....id=42554#42554

You bet, lots in the airpark he lives in start at $350K.

/www.jumbolair.com/

Charles Talleyrand wrote:


There must be people on the newsgroup that fly single pilot
IFR on a regular basis. These people have a schedule to make
and would rather not miss that schedule unless necessary. These people
don't have the need to carry many passengers, but just themselves.
My question is for these people ...

What sort of planes are you flying?




  #18  
Old December 2nd 03, 11:27 PM
Kevin
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Jeff wrote:
starts at 350k?
is that just the land or the house also?

That is just for a lot approx 2.5 Acres. That would buy you a nice bird !


Kevin wrote:


Jeff wrote:

maybe you should list a price range you was wanting answers for
check out what John Travoltas flies
http://www.ipilot.com/forum/message....id=42554#42554


You bet, lots in the airpark he lives in start at $350K.

/www.jumbolair.com/


Charles Talleyrand wrote:



There must be people on the newsgroup that fly single pilot
IFR on a regular basis. These people have a schedule to make
and would rather not miss that schedule unless necessary. These people
don't have the need to carry many passengers, but just themselves.
My question is for these people ...

What sort of planes are you flying?




  #19  
Old December 3rd 03, 12:30 AM
Mike Rapoport
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Not even close to the best. I have a friend with part of one (Netjets
share) . With the two pilots and two average size passengers and a Labrador
it can't go from San Diego to Sun Valley without refueling in a modest
headwind if its warm. The problem is that at FL350 it will only go about
350kts and even a modest headwind at that altitude is well over 100kts. I
forget which engines the CJ1 uses but the engines in the CitationJet cycled
out pretty fast so if you weren't flying long legs the engines would cycle
out well before overhaul. Piaggio and Premier are much better.

Mike
MU-2

"Tom S." wrote in message
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Citation CJ1!!

It ain't cheap, but it is the BEST.




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Old December 3rd 03, 12:53 AM
Paul Sengupta
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"Kevin" wrote in message
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Jeff wrote:
starts at 350k?

That would buy you a nice bird !


Or you could get a plane.

Paul


 




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