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Jep p or NACO Charts?
Last week I finally got checked out in the club's Arrow.
During the training, the instructor noticed that I was using the NACO charts and plates. He uses the Jeppeson stuff and excitedly indicated that it is far superior to the NACO charts. He gave me a few reasons, but when I looked at it for myself, I just can't figure out how to justify spending all that extra money for really not all that extra features. So what do people here think? Are the Jepp charts worth shelling out the extra money? |
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Not if you're only going to fly in the U.S. Forget the over-priced Jeppesen
product. Judah wrote: Last week I finally got checked out in the club's Arrow. During the training, the instructor noticed that I was using the NACO charts and plates. He uses the Jeppeson stuff and excitedly indicated that it is far superior to the NACO charts. He gave me a few reasons, but when I looked at it for myself, I just can't figure out how to justify spending all that extra money for really not all that extra features. So what do people here think? Are the Jepp charts worth shelling out the extra money? |
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Are the Jepp charts worth shelling out the
extra money? Nope. There was a time (twenty years ago) when they were, but now the NACO charts have improved a lot, and Jepp is more expensive than it was. So unless you'll do lots of IFR flying, stick with NACO. Jose -- Freedom. It seemed like a good idea at the time. for Email, make the obvious change in the address. |
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Jose wrote:
So unless you'll do lots of IFR flying, stick with NACO. I'm curious what you mean... Hilton |
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So unless you'll do lots of IFR flying, stick with NACO.
I'm curious what you mean... Jepps have slight benefits (i.e. better printing) but much higher costs (i.e. time spent updating). If you fly a lot, the costs spread over more flying, but the benefits accrue every flight. Jose -- Freedom. It seemed like a good idea at the time. for Email, make the obvious change in the address. |
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Judah wrote:
Last week I finally got checked out in the club's Arrow. During the training, the instructor noticed that I was using the NACO charts and plates. He uses the Jeppeson stuff and excitedly indicated that it is far superior to the NACO charts. Excitedly? Gee, I wonder who that might have been :-) I used to use Jepp, but switched to NOS/NACO/whatever a while back. On the "Jepp is better" side of the story: Better cartography, better printing, better paper. The Jepp 7-ring binder is a lot more convenient to use than what NOS does; it's a lot simplier to pull an individual plate out of the binder to clip on a kneeboard or whatever. Jepp has a better notam system. If there's a notam published for a while, Jepp will usually produce a new plate with the new info right on the plate. NOS makes you keep up with their "change notices" booklet, etc. You look way cool hanging around the FBO with a Jepp binder. Especially if it's the real leather one, not the cheap immitation kind I used to carry around. Extra coolness points if it's old and battered. If you fly for an airline, Jepp makes up special subscription packs just for you, with just the routes you fly and internal ops stuff printed on the same 7-hole paper. On the "NOS is better" side: Cheaper. You don't have to file revisions. Every 8 weeks, just get a new book and toss the old one. Filing revisions gets old fast. Running an end-of-year checklist to make sure you haven't lost any pages gets really old, really fast. NOS is available anywhere. Every dinky pilot shop in every dinky airport will stock NOS plates. It's very rare to find anyplace that stocks Jepp. So, if you travel out of your normal area and use Jepp, you need to plan ahead and order what you need. With NOS you can just stop by the FBO and pick up a new book. You can download NOS-format PDF's from the web now. The military guys all use NOS and they manage to look cool carrying their NOS books around with them. Must be the nomex flight suits that really complete the look, I guess. |
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Roy Smith wrote:
Cheaper. Note, that if you get all the NOS things, including the intermediate changes, plus the class II notams (all of which is embeddeed in the basic Jepp subscription), makes the Jepp a little closer in price. |
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On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 22:19:16 -0500, Ron Natalie
wrote: Roy Smith wrote: Cheaper. Note, that if you get all the NOS things, including the intermediate changes, plus the class II notams (all of which is embeddeed in the basic Jepp subscription), makes the Jepp a little closer in price. Maybe, but the Class II notams are available to anybody doing a DUATS briefing, for free and more current (and again, no updating pages) |
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In article ,
Ron Natalie wrote: wrote: Maybe, but the Class II notams are available to anybody doing a DUATS briefing, for free and more current (and again, no updating pages) They lose the pictures for the few that contain them. And if you use a FSS there's no guarantee you'll get them. Sounds like yet another a good reason to prefer self-briefing with DUATS over FSS. I suspect this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but... The idea that my tax dollars are going to pay for somebody to read a computer printout to a pilot when he could read it himself just as easily is absurd. Or for that matter, to play data entry clerk with flight plans. Yes, this service is essential for in-flight needs, or for those times when there's no duats access available (pretty rare these days). But I've watched pilots sit down in front of the computer in the pilot lounge and pick up the phone to call 1-800-WX-BRIEF. It just doesn't make sense. Especially since you can get plain-english if you don't want to read the coded version. |
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