Cockpit Size and Comfort

Le mercredi 6 mai 2015 03:48:15 UTC+2, Mark628CA a écrit*:
Bob W. hit on the absolutely best argument about the trailer issue (now that this thread has drifted so far from the initial query).

If the rigging procedure is so painful that it causes a reduction in your airtime (Should I? It doesn't look that good. Maybe tomorrow...) then you need a better trailer or rigging procedure.

Similarly, if you have to land early to make sure you have assistance to de-rig (Hey! Where did everybody go?) then you need a better trailer or de-rigging procedure.

I still like the hangar option, and as an added benefit, I save ounces of pennies on wing tape.

Absolutely.
I've been through a number of trailers and sailplane riggings (from the easy selfrigging of my Venuts cM to rigging the SB-10 every day with a minimum team of 5).
If your glider is new (to you), you'll take any pain to get to fly it.
After some time, you will start to optimize the rigging procedure because you don't want "any pain" anymore, and that may include upgrading the trailer.

On Sunday, May 3, 2015 at 10:04:57 AM UTC-4, Mike Rinaldi wrote:
I am looking to purchase a new (to me) XC ship. Which ones have the largest/roomiest cockpit? Not for a tall person, one with broad shoulders, about 5'9 and 200lbs. Discuss and Thank you in advance!

Mike I know this is a few years old, but I am going through the same issue as you. I'm presently flying a PIK20 and it's really too small. What glider did you purchase and how is the fit? I am 5'9" and 210. 34" waist, 46" chest.

I would like to restart this thread: I amd 6'4", 210lbs, lanky former high school basketball player build. I flew an ASW-20C for 200+ hours but it was a tight fit even with the seat back removed and custom cushions installed. I am in the market for a newer generation glider: ASW-27/29/24, Ventus 2a/b, maybe ASH-26 (I ruled out LS ships due to the small cockpits and (I believe) lack of crashworthy cockpits in -6,8,10.)
Can I get some input from guys near my size as to the fit in these gliders?
Have learned all the tricks: My chute has been rigged to move bulk down low, I wear hiking shoes with thin heels, used astronaut foam in seat/back cushions, I cut my beer consumption (OK, sorry, that was a bridge too far.)
Any constructive input would be appreciated.
Gene

DG-600 might fit well. I fly DG-300 and it is about the only one i found where i am comfortable.

S

Later model ASW 24 is possible (there are at least three cockpit sizes, IIRC). 27/28/29 are similar if not a bit larger. All have Waibel's safety cockpit design. There's an aftermarket instrument panel with more knee room for the 24 that helped get me into mine; available from Streifeneder years ago.. Don't know if it's available (or needed) on later gliders.

Chip Bearden
6'3", 185 lbs.

At 18:56 27 August 2018, GeneReinecke wrote:


I would like to restart this thread: I amd 6'4", 210lbs,
lanky former high
=
school basketball player build. I flew an ASW-20C for 200+
hours but it
was=
a tight fit even with the seat back removed and custom
cushions
installed.=
I am in the market for a newer generation glider: ASW-
27/29/24, Ventus
2a/=
b, maybe ASH-26 (I ruled out LS ships due to the small
cockpits and (I
beli=
eve) lack of crashworthy cockpits in -6,8,10.)=20
Can I get some input from guys near my size as to the fit
in these
gliders?=
=20
Have learned all the tricks: My chute has been rigged to
move bulk down
low=
, I wear hiking shoes with thin heels, used astronaut foam
in seat/back
cus=
hions, I cut my beer consumption (OK, sorry, that was a
bridge too far.)
Any constructive input would be appreciated.
Gene

If you can fit in an ASW20 you should find the DG800x
series no problem; pluses are excellent durability of gel coat,
excellent visibility, good crash worthiness and the potential
to fit the NOAH pilot ejection system. The DG800 series is
not really "newer generation" though, its wing section does
not like rain or bugs, if you don't fly comps this may be no
problem. The 18m DG808C (self launcher) is not better than
a 15m ASW27; neither come close to the performance of an
ASG29 or Ventus 2.
The DG600 (a very much older design) is, reputably, trickier
to fly well than the newer 800; the 600's biggest potential
problem is lack of wing moulds (I think they were lost in a
fire) so any serious wing repair could be a difficult
proposition.
You'd certainly fit in an Antares.
Dave Walsh

At 18:56 27 August 2018, GeneReinecke wrote:


I would like to restart this thread: I amd 6'4", 210lbs, lanky former
high
=
school basketball player build. I flew an ASW-20C for 200+ hours
but it
was=
a tight fit even with the seat back removed and custom cushions
installed.=
I am in the market for a newer generation glider: ASW-27/29/24,
Ventus
2a/=
b, maybe ASH-26 (I ruled out LS ships due to the small cockpits
and (I
beli=
eve) lack of crashworthy cockpits in -6,8,10.)=20
Can I get some input from guys near my size as to the fit in these
gliders?=
=20
Have learned all the tricks: My chute has been rigged to move bulk
down
low=
, I wear hiking shoes with thin heels, used astronaut foam in
seat/back
cus=
hions, I cut my beer consumption (OK, sorry, that was a bridge too
far.)
Any constructive input would be appreciated.
Gene


On the Schempp-Hirth side, I have a Discus-2b, am 74" tall and
weigh ~ 205 Lbs. I normally fly it with the rudder pedals pulled
back 2 notches, legs flat on the floor, a normal chute with factory
seat back and head rest installed. You would have no problems
fitting in this cockpit. I assume that the Ventus-2b is the same.

RO

On Monday, August 27, 2018 at 11:56:18 AM UTC-7, GeneReinecke wrote:
I would like to restart this thread: I amd 6'4", 210lbs, lanky former high school basketball player build. I flew an ASW-20C for 200+ hours but it was a tight fit even with the seat back removed and custom cushions installed. I am in the market for a newer generation glider: ASW-27/29/24, Ventus 2a/b, maybe ASH-26 (I ruled out LS ships due to the small cockpits and (I believe) lack of crashworthy cockpits in -6,8,10.)
Can I get some input from guys near my size as to the fit in these gliders?
Have learned all the tricks: My chute has been rigged to move bulk down low, I wear hiking shoes with thin heels, used astronaut foam in seat/back cushions, I cut my beer consumption (OK, sorry, that was a bridge too far.)
Any constructive input would be appreciated.
Gene

I think you would fit into an ASH26e (Jerry Plazowicki (sp?) is 6' 5" and flies a 26). I just happen to have one for sale - see my ad at Wings & Wheels.

Tom