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Mystery turn control device on older jets
Its located above the "go faster" controls.
Nancy Pryor wrote: Mxsmanic wrote: I recall seeing, long ago, a sort of large knob on the pedestal of a jet (I can't remember which kind) that, when turned, put the aircraft into a coordinated turn ... at least if I recall correctly. No modern jets seem to have anything like this. Am I imagining things, or did something like this exist on earlier jets. I recall it being called a flight director, I think, but the behavior doesn't seem to be like the devices people call flight directors today. OMG...the stewardess is flying the plane! PS It's a device for turning the plane to avoid flying into the Rockies in preparation for landing in Salt Lake City. Nancy honey...prepare the cabin for landing. -- Joe Leikhim K4SAT "The RFI-EMI-GUY"© "Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason? For if it prosper, none dare call it treason." "Follow The Money" ;-P |
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Mystery turn control device on older jets
Mxsmanic wrote in
: Luke Skywalker writes: Well not remembering which jet leaves the field wide open...but if it was on the pedestal of a B737 200 series or a B727 or a B707 you were looking at the rudder trim knob. I thought of that, but this was larger ... and you wouldn't normally use rudder trim to turn the aircraft. I guess it could be a manual turn controller for the autopilot, as Bob said, but I wonder how it was used and why it's gone now. Keeep wondering fjukktard. Unless you send me the 500, of course. Bertie |
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Mystery turn control device on older jets
Luke Skywalker wrote in
ups.com: On May 6, 8:23 pm, Mxsmanic wrote: Luke Skywalker writes: Well not remembering which jet leaves the field wide open...but if it was on the pedestal of a B737 200 series or a B727 or a B707 you were looking at the rudder trim knob. I thought of that, but this was larger ... and you wouldn't normally use rudder trim to turn the aircraft. I guess it could be a manual turn controller for the autopilot, as Bob said, but I wonder how it was used and why it's gone now. Maybe it was something like control wheel steering (also apparently not used much in practice). -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. In a Boeing I doubt it was Control Wheel steering. CWS (in a older boeing at least...and even in the -300 series 737) was done by the Actual Control wheel...IT with a certian force you moved the control where and it then "froze" whereever you left it. I find/found it useful in turbulence...but you had to recognize that in that mode it didnt recognize any pitch or roll commands. It has been so long since I flew a -200 737 but I seem to recall that aileron trim was also a "large" knob on the pedastal... I've never seen ANY autopilot controls on the pedestal for two reasons. First they are out of "normal line of sight" which the FAA requires and second they are vunerable (at least in the 737) to jump seat riders putting their feet on the pedestal. 70 and 72 had them on the pedestal, essentially the same autopilot as the 737-200, but without CWS, but that's not what terrorist boi is talking about. Bertie |
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Mystery turn control device on older jets
Richard Riley writes:
How about the nosewheel steering knob? Is a .02G turn on the tarmac "coordinated?" I thought tillers were usually placed on the outboard wall of the cockpit (perhaps because there's not much else placed there)? -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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Mystery turn control device on older jets
Mxsmanic wrote in
: Richard Riley writes: How about the nosewheel steering knob? Is a .02G turn on the tarmac "coordinated?" I thought tillers were usually placed on the outboard wall of the cockpit (perhaps because there's not much else placed there)? You're an idiot. Send me $200 and I'll tell you. A bargain, you have to agree. Bertie |
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Mystery turn control device on older jets
"Bob Moore" wrote in message
46.128... Luke Skywalker wrote On May 6, 5:18 pm, Mxsmanic wrote: I recall seeing, long ago, a sort of large knob on the pedestal of a jet (I can't remember which kind) that, when turned, put the aircraft into a coordinated turn ... Well not remembering which jet leaves the field wide open...but if it was on the pedestal of a B737 200 series or a B727 or a B707 you were looking at the rudder trim knob. I've never seen a rudder trim knob that would put a 707/727 into a coordinated turn. I stand by my "autopilot turn knob" answer. Of course, if he had not mentioned "coordinated turn", I would agree on "Rudder Trim Knob". Bob Moore ATP B-707 B-727 PanAm (retired) on the B-52, it sets the cross wind crab angle to the gear for take off and landing BT |
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message ... Richard Riley writes: How about the nosewheel steering knob? Is a .02G turn on the tarmac "coordinated?" I thought tillers were usually placed on the outboard wall of the cockpit (perhaps because there's not much else placed there)? Have you tried Control-Alt-Arrow? |
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Mystery turn control device on older jets
Mxsmanic wrote:
Luke Skywalker writes: Well not remembering which jet leaves the field wide open...but if it was on the pedestal of a B737 200 series or a B727 or a B707 you were looking at the rudder trim knob. I thought of that, but this was larger ... and you wouldn't normally use rudder trim to turn the aircraft. I guess it could be a manual turn controller for the autopilot, as Bob said, but I wonder how it was used and why it's gone now. Maybe it was something like control wheel steering (also apparently not used much in practice). Take a look at this pictu http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1149076/L/ At the very bottom center of the photo is the rudder trim knob. Ahead of it, on the center console, forward of the nav & com radios, and just below the 3 fuel cutoff levers, is a smaller, grey knob. This is the autopilot manual turn (and pitch) control knob. It is used to turn the aircraft left or right, if you're not using a heading &/or nav mode, while the autopilot is engaged. It is also used to command nose up or down, unless you are coupled in "approach" mode. Happy flying! Scott Skylane |
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Mystery turn control device on older jets
"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message . 130... Mxsmanic wrote in : I recall seeing, long ago, a sort of large knob on the pedestal of a jet (I can't remember which kind) that, when turned, put the aircraft into a coordinated turn ... at least if I recall correctly. No modern jets seem to have anything like this. You're an idiot. Send me $500 and I'll tell you all about it. Bertie Do you have any reason for reading this newsgroup other than to make repeated juvenile comments about mxsmanic? ie do you fly yourself? are you an interested wannabe? , do you have anything to contribute aviation wise? If the answer to the last 3 questions is no, would you **** off if we sent you $500? terry |
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Mystery turn control device on older jets
"d&tm" wrote in
: "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message . 130... Mxsmanic wrote in : I recall seeing, long ago, a sort of large knob on the pedestal of a jet (I can't remember which kind) that, when turned, put the aircraft into a coordinated turn ... at least if I recall correctly. No modern jets seem to have anything like this. You're an idiot. Send me $500 and I'll tell you all about it. Bertie Do you have any reason for reading this newsgroup other than to make repeated juvenile comments about mxsmanic? No ie do you fly yourself? Yes are you an interested wannabe? no , do you have anything to contribute aviation wise? If the answer to the last 3 questions is no, would you **** off if we sent you $500? No, but you can send it anyway. Berti e |
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