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Speaking strictly from an aviation standpoint, I don't think that either
Bush or Kerry is especially good for GA. The Republican tax incentives for new plane purchases have been very good, but they do have the side effect of depressing the prices of used airplanes. You can expect these tax incentives to disappear under either administration, although the Republicans are talking about extending them one more year. Estate taxes are another issue. Federal estate taxes have been reduced, at least temporarily, but many states have adopted estate taxes of their own to grab this money. Of course, the states will not repeal these taxes when the federal tax goes back up. Kerry would make matters worse by repealing the reductions immediately. This means that if you own an aviation business your heirs will probably be forced to sell the business instead of continuing to operate it. Not that it matters all that much. The government is going to take about half what you earn, no matter how you slice it. Income and estate taxes are small fish. Most people have no idea how big a bite that Social Security, payroll taxes, sales taxes, property taxes, utility taxes, and all the other hidden little taxes that they pay all up and down the distribution system really adds up to. It doesn't matter what your income is. You end up giving half of it to the government. The Republicans and Democrats only keep the income tax around so that they can distract your attention from what you are really paying. It gives them something to talk about during election years and gives them the opportunity to pretend that there is really a difference between the two parties. Despite claims by some here to the contrary, both Bush and Kerry are wealthy elitists and they both would have done pretty much the same thing in Iraq. Bush is not nearly as stupid as painted by the Kerry camp and Kerry is not nearly as bright. In fact, he may not be any smarter than Bush at all. Neither is Kerry as well liked in Europe as portrayed. In the end, he would have gone into Iraq alone, just like Bush, and the Republicans would be having fits over it, just like the Democrats now. It was the same in Vietnam. Johnson won the election by portraying Goldwater as a reckless war hawk, but in the end he did everything Goldwater said he would do, and more. The real reason that voter turnout is so low in this country is that most people know that their vote doesn't make much difference one way or the other. |
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"NW_PILOT" wrote in message ... And you think we are going to have another presidential election in this country???? I think that bush Replace "Bush" with "Clinton" and you have a re-run of what many Republicans were saying during the last election. |
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Kerry is a PX hero and does a poor immitation of Bill Clinton.
Foster wrote: Or, think of it this way. Bush is an incompetent moron; Kerry isn't. Bush's incompetence and ego got us into a war we shouldn't be in; Kerry didn't. etc., etc., etc. |
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Very well stated Sir. I could distill it down to its simplest terms:
The Demos (lead by Kerry) are running towards socialism while the Repubs (lead by Bush) are jogging towards the same ultimate destination. |
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"Foster" wrote in message ... Or, think of it this way. Bush is an incompetent moron; Kerry isn't. Bush's incompetence and ego got us into a war we shouldn't be in; Kerry didn't. Actually, Kerry has not made any such claims and for good reason: he has gone on record too many times saying that Bush fooled him on various issues. Kerry would probably just as soon his supporters did not make such a big argument that Bush is stupid; it makes Kerry look even dumber than Bush. It makes his supporters look even dumber than that, but of course they are too stupid to realize it. :-) |
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"ArtKramr" wrote
Kerry was and is a true decorated war hero. But he said he murdered innocent women and children. And it is driving the neocons nut He doesn't drive me anywhere, he only exists. Plus, there are only true conservatives on this forum. There are no neo or paleo here, just good conservatives and worthless radicals (welfare) types. especially when we look at the war records of president Cheney and vice president Bush.. They, like the majority of other Americans have never been to war, thus can have no "war" record. |
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A British newscaster on BBC did it much simpler in trying to explain the
differences in our political parties: The Republicans are very much like our...Conservatives. The Democrats are very much like our...Conservatives. Jim kontiki shared these priceless pearls of wisdom: -Very well stated Sir. I could distill it down to its simplest terms: - -The Demos (lead by Kerry) are running towards socialism while the -Repubs (lead by Bush) are jogging towards the same ultimate destination. - Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup) VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor http://www.rst-engr.com |
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"Sam Byrams" wrote:
All this brings up several things. One, Bush learned to fly in the military at government expense, did not complete his assigned commitment, and flew, if I understand , fourteen months after UPT and has not flown as PIC or SIC since. Neither military or elsewise. (Not counting the ride out to the boat of late.) Kerry learned to fly not at government expense and apparently has done so for a number of years. Now, mind you, I don't like Bush or Kerry as a candidate. Bush was born on third base and thinks he hit a triple. Kerry is also apparently something of a rich kid, married Big Ketchup, Ivy League (yecch), and to top it off is closely associated with a family I detest and which makes my skin crawl for many reasons (not least of which the same reason a certain baseball player hated them for every day of the last 36 years of his life). I can tell you right now I'm voting third party. But-be honest-is there any reason I should prefer Bush over Kerry from an aviation standpoint? Bush, a nonpilot as far as I'm concerned, has done nothing for aviation in this country. Kerry isn't likely to either, but how much worse could he be? The other thing in all this discussion of what balls it takes to strap on a single engine fighter, is the growing evidence that many people are willing to pay a lot of money for the privilege. Once reserved for places like Mojave, the warjet deal is penetrating down to the backward Midwest. I saw a Sabre and a Hawker Hunter poking their tails up among the Aztecs and King Airs at the local spam can patch this week out here. My guess is it costs roughly five hundred bucks an hour to fly a Sabre. And the civil warjet guys are killing themselves at a rate that would have embarrassed the Air Force during the glory days of "Every Man A Tiger". In and of itself flying fighters is no more heroic than riding a chopped Harley with the Hells Angels or wreck diving with open circuit scuba gear. It's what one does, and why, that sometimes might be heroic. But just climbing up there-if I hit the lottery and could get the FAA to let me I'd buy-after working my way up a little-the wildest fighter I could. Simply because it would be-this is 2004, Marilyn's dead, and she'd be 78 anyway- the biggest ego blast in the world to taxi up to the ramp at the local FBO in front of all those square-ass Gulfstream and Lear crews. I know what the statistics are, and I don't care. I suspect Bush Jr's motives were the same-booze, pussy and kerosene! All good points but remember what Ed Rasimus says; "there are fighter pilots and there are pilots who fly fighters." Back in the late 50's and early 60's my Dad flew the F-102 and versus Dubya 1v1 both flying the -102 undoubtedly my ol' man would just as soon expose Junior as a foolish ****** as wake up in the morning. Regarding your question, "Is there any reason I should prefer Bush over Kerry from an aviation standpoint?" The answer seems obvious to me in view of the recovering (post 9/11) airline industry. As far as GA is concerned, for guys like you, me and the vast majority of vets on this NG who are interested in flying airplanes that are affordable and readily available -- I'm not aware of anything specific that Bush has done for the GA community. However, I do know that in 2001 Dubya signed into law H.R. 727, a bill that transfered jurisdiction over low-speed electric bikes from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) to the Consumer Product Safety Commission, which reduced the cost and regulatory burdens of electric-powered bicycles. Conversely, Kerry and his liberal ilk would have wanted to regulate and tax them into oblivion like Canada does which is absurd since these are bicycles and should be regulated as bicycles. (BTW, I happen to own an Iacocca e-bike and think it's great. I also fly my own experimental aircraft about every other day.) In other words, I'm all for any politician who signs a law that represents a tangible step forward for efficient, affordable transportation technologies (such as general aviation aircraft, electric bikes, etc.) while promoting less government, less taxes, etc. Thus, Dubya has my vote once again in November. |
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