Night flying in the mountians in a cessna 150,

A borrowed word,
in the language that borrowed it, inherets brand new rules, completely
independent of the original language from whence it came.

"...original language whence it came". I wouldn't mention it except
that we're talking about words.

Jose
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OK but when referring to the Sierra Nevada mountans the correct word is
Sierra.

Mike
MU-2


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Mike,
American Heritage Dictionary defines a sierra is "a rugged range of
mountains having an irregular or jagged profile".
I did a quick web search and found sierras being used quite often.
Here are some old sources:

Book: In the Heart of the Sierras by James M. Hutchings (1888)
Movies: Springtime in the Sierras (1947); King of the Sierras (1938)

So if there are more than one mountan ranges, it appears that the
plural term sierras is used such as Sierras de Cazorla, Segura and Las
Villas in Spain

http://www.andalucia.com/environment...ct/cazorla.htm

Tell you an interesting story about professional pilots ...

I was bumming a ride in the jump seat of a Saab 340A - the reason I was
there was because I wasn't prepared to fly a light twin with a single-engine
service ceiling of around 4250 at night over terrain that requires a MSA of
around 8000 feet.

Without any suggestion from me, 2 seperate crews immediately came to the
same conclusion I did - and that is "if you were going to do that flight
then you would want to track around the coast" (ie at sea level).

In my opinion these crews both have a safety oriented attitude - on the
other hand many of the pilots I know would do that flight at night in a
single - their best attempt at "risk management" being "the aeroplane
doesn't know it's night"

I know which bunch I'd send my family flying with!


"Morgans" wrote in message
...

"Cockpit Colin" wrote

Unfortunately, too many
pilots continue to accept too high a level of risk - and as a result,
they
keep on dying horrible deaths.

I'm with you. Saying that you accept the risks, because you are a
professional pilot, is a cop-out of a reason. A true professional would
not
accept missions of undue risk, and wait for conditions more acceptable,
and
manageable.

What's that saying about old pilots, and bold pilots?
--
Jim in NC

Academics aside, my personal mantra is that aviation can be (for the most
part) as safe, or as dangerous as pilots choose to make it. There are so
many things that one can do to make a difference.

Call me old - call me a fool (call me an old fool) but I kinda enjoy my
life - so I do what I can to stay alive. If some idiot wants to get ahead of
me on the motorway - I pull over and let him get as far ahead as he likes
(the further the better). If I'm flying over water I WEAR a life jacket - no
ifs, buts, or maybes. If I'm night flying away from the airport I fly a
twin. If I don't like the look of the weather I turn back or go somewhere
else.

What I don't understand is why others don't do these things? I mean to say -
if they want to keep killing themselves with their "risk denial" attitudes
and actions I guess that's their right - but it seems a pity all the same.

Hi fellow wimp

For me, safe flying is all about exercising prudent judgement.
Granted, this can be very subjective although sometimes there are
absolutes. Such as taking off into a cell where 2000fpm downdrafts
have been reported. But, for me, mountain flying is strictly a
daylight activity.

Or perhaps a slightly different slant ...

"In any situation if you can choose to do something 2 ways - one being more
safe - the other being less safe - then why on earth wouldn't you choose the
safer one?

In article ,
"Morgans" wrote:

"Legrande Harris" wrote

The plane and engine have to be in perfect condition.

Perfect engines fail, too. Right?

Everything mechanical will break.

Do I want to be flying at night over the mountains when my engine dies?
The thought of spiraling down into a black hole doesn't really appeal to
me

I actually enjoy flying at night though. I learned to fly down in
Arizona and flying at night with a full moon across the desert was a
wonderful experience. At night I would have less turbulence, the
aircrafts performance was better and most of the time I could see the
ground well enough to probably survive an engine out landing.

So is it worth the risk? Is it worth the risk not to?

LG

What I don't understand is why others don't do these things? I mean to say -
if they want to keep killing themselves with their "risk denial" attitudes
and actions I guess that's their right - but it seems a pity all the same.

And what is your answer to the folk who don't understand why you climb
into those dangerous flying contraptions in the first place, instead of
motoring along safely on the ground, or, if you =must= fly, to do so
from the back of a jumbo jet?

Jose
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Jose wrote:

But you would never say "the Appalachian ranges." For the same reason, you
should never say "the Sierras" when you're talking about the Sierra Nevada.

But we say "the Appalachians".

And it would be correct to say "the Nevadas." But not "the Sierras."

George Patterson
I prefer Heaven for climate but Hell for company.

"Jose" wrote in message
m...
"...original language whence it came". I wouldn't mention it except that
we're talking about words.

Yeah, thanks. I make misteaks sometimes too.

Part of the problem is that I unconsciously pick up other people's language
habits. I have found that I have to correct my friends EVERY time they
misuse "I" and "me" (usually by saying "I" when they mean "me"), otherwise I
find myself using those words incorrectly as well.

I do explain this to my friends, and they're very tolerant of my
corrections.

Pete

But we say "the Appalachians".

And it would be correct to say "the Nevadas." But not "the Sierras."

But we write "the Appalachian range", though we write "the Sierra
Nevada", not "the sierra Nevada". "Sierra" is part of the proper noun;
it is not a common noun by itself in this context, the way "range" is above.

Jose
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