Chuck Yeager-pitot tube

From: "Bill Silvey"


"B2431" wrote in message

From: "Gord Beaman" (

"Tarver Engineering" wrote:

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Especially when describing what a Pitot tube is and what it does.
;-)

You mean the kind of pitot tube that produces two pressures to make
IAS? The same kind Henri Pitot used to measure water flow?

That would not be the kind the lunes of ram believe in.


John this is getting tiresome...
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-Gord.

Gord, give up on tarver, now he thinks pitot tubes PRODUCE pressure.
Not only that they produce TWO pressures. The poor man is beyond help.

Dan, U. S. Air Force

Moreover, he thinks they produce two pressures and produce airspeed as well.

The man's beyond hope, he is.

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It is obvious he thinks a pitot tube produces pitot and static pressures, he
must mean a pitot-static tube, maybe he can also get free air temperature from
the tube too so he can get TAS.

OK, let's examine this theory.....no, let's not. Let's wait until he can prove
a single assertion he has made on this subject or any other claim he has ever
made. Maybe not, he would rather attack anyone who asks. What is the medical
term for someone who knows he's correct when provided with proof he is in error
yet provides no proof of his own?

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

(B2431) wrote:

What is the medical term for someone who knows he's correct
when provided with proof he is in error yet provides no proof of
his own?

Speaking of the ol' tarv troll...

New research indicates that incompetent people tend not to know they
are incompetent. Not only that, they also tend to be very confident
that they know what they're doing -- even more confident of their
own competence than people who really do know what they're doing.

The New York Times reports that Cornell University psychology
professor David Dunning reached those conclusions in a study he
conducted with a graduate student, and wrote about his findings in the
December issue of the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology.

The researchers concluded that one reason incompetent people do not
know how much they do not know, is that the cognitive skills required
to be competent are also required for recognizing actual
competence.

Researcher Justin Kruger told the Times that the incompetence of
incompetent people "robs them of their ability to realize" they have a
problem. It also makes it difficult for incompetent folks to recognize
competence in others.

***

By the way, the researchers say they also noticed that people who
can't tell a joke tend not to realize that they're not funny -- and as
a result they persist in telling jokes badly.

"Mike Marron" wrote in message
...
(B2431) wrote:

What is the medical term for someone who knows he's correct
when provided with proof he is in error yet provides no proof of
his own?

Speaking of the ol' tarv troll...

New research indicates that incompetent people tend not to know they
are incompetent. Not only that, they also tend to be very confident
that they know what they're doing -- even more confident of their
own competence than people who really do know what they're doing.

The New York Times reports that Cornell University psychology
professor David Dunning reached those conclusions in a study he
conducted with a graduate student, and wrote about his findings in the
December issue of the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology.

The researchers concluded that one reason incompetent people do not
know how much they do not know, is that the cognitive skills required
to be competent are also required for recognizing actual
competence.

Researcher Justin Kruger told the Times that the incompetence of
incompetent people "robs them of their ability to realize" they have a
problem. It also makes it difficult for incompetent folks to recognize
competence in others.

***

By the way, the researchers say they also noticed that people who
can't tell a joke tend not to realize that they're not funny -- and as
a result they persist in telling jokes badly.


What constantly amazes me about this sort of "revelation" is how long it
apparently took these PhD's doing post graduate work to discover what anyone
without a PhD but with only an once of brains already knew by the time they
had reached the third grade! :-)

Dudley Henriques
International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
Commercial Pilot/ CFI Retired
For personal email, please replace
the z's with e's.
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"Dudley Henriques" wrote:
"Mike Marron" wrote:
(B2431) wrote:

What is the medical term for someone who knows he's correct
when provided with proof he is in error yet provides no proof of
his own?

Speaking of the ol' tarv troll...

New research indicates that incompetent people tend not to know they
are incompetent. Not only that, they also tend to be very confident
that they know what they're doing -- even more confident of their
own competence than people who really do know what they're doing.

The New York Times reports that Cornell University psychology
professor David Dunning reached those conclusions in a study he
conducted with a graduate student, and wrote about his findings in the
December issue of the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology.

The researchers concluded that one reason incompetent people do not
know how much they do not know, is that the cognitive skills required
to be competent are also required for recognizing actual
competence.

Researcher Justin Kruger told the Times that the incompetence of
incompetent people "robs them of their ability to realize" they have a
problem. It also makes it difficult for incompetent folks to recognize
competence in others.

***

By the way, the researchers say they also noticed that people who
can't tell a joke tend not to realize that they're not funny -- and as
a result they persist in telling jokes badly.

What constantly amazes me about this sort of "revelation" is how long it
apparently took these PhD's doing post graduate work to discover what anyone
without a PhD but with only an once of brains already knew by the time they
had reached the third grade! :-)

True, but the tarv troll hasn't reached the third grade yet (and/or he
doesn't have an ounce of brains).

From: Mike Marron
snip
New research indicates that incompetent people tend not to know they
are incompetent.

snip

Was tarver a test subject in this study? Perhaps he was the model?

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

John this is getting tiresome...
--

-Gord.

Gord, give up on tarver, now he thinks pitot tubes PRODUCE pressure. Not only
that they produce TWO pressures. The poor man is beyond help.

Dan, U. S. Air Force

Yeh...poor chappie..
--

-Gord.

"Tarver Engineering" wrote:


"B2431" wrote in message
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Gord, give up on tarver, now he thinks pitot tubes PRODUCE pressure. Not
only
that they produce TWO pressures. The poor man is beyond help.

God what a moron.

Well now...perhaps there's hope for you yet John, you seem to
recognise the basis of your problem it seems...
--

-Gord.

Actually, flight-test nose booms pick up both Pitot (dynamic) and static
pressure. I'll bet the one on the X-1 did, too.

Jim Thomas

Bill Silvey wrote:
"Ron" wrote in message
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An interesting passage in General Yeagers book "Press ON".

" Just a ten inch steel shaft, once silvery, but now, after forty
years in various Yeager closets and attics, a kind of dull gray It
jumped out at me as something special.
It was the pitot tube off the Bell X-1
I picked it up and plopped down on the sofa. Normally, there's
nothing terribly special about a pitot tube, which is an instrument
that measures air pressure so that a pilot can find out how fast he's
flying. But according to the plaque it came mounted on, this
particular pitot tube had been on the nose of the X-1 on, as it said,.
"10-14-47." That's the day we reached Mach 1 . . .Murac Air Base . . .
That old plane part felt cool to the touch, but the memory it brought
back was of a little orange aircraft sitting on Rogers Dry Lake bed
and shimmering in the Mohave Desert heat . . . the Glamorous Glennis,
I'd called the X-1.
The General has a way with words too, doesn't he.

Ron


Especially when describing what a Pitot tube is and what it does. ;-)

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"Gord Beaman" wrote in message
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote:


"B2431" wrote in message
...

Gord, give up on tarver, now he thinks pitot tubes PRODUCE pressure.
Not
only
that they produce TWO pressures. The poor man is beyond help.

God what a moron.

Well now...perhaps there's hope for you yet John, you seem to
recognise the basis of your problem it seems...

I have no problem, Gord, but I do apreciate you playing the fool. I
couldn't twist these idiots up without you.

"Jim Thomas" wrote in message
ink.net...
Actually, flight-test nose booms pick up both Pitot (dynamic) and static
pressure. I'll bet the one on the X-1 did, too.

A pitot tube always picks up static and dynamic pressure; that is how Henri
Pitot measured the speed of rivers with his invention. Don't bother much
with Silvey, he is just a stay at home dad, with little eslse to do outside
trolling ram.

Bill Silvey wrote:
"Ron" wrote in message
om

An interesting passage in General Yeagers book "Press ON".

" Just a ten inch steel shaft, once silvery, but now, after forty
years in various Yeager closets and attics, a kind of dull gray It
jumped out at me as something special.
It was the pitot tube off the Bell X-1
I picked it up and plopped down on the sofa. Normally, there's
nothing terribly special about a pitot tube, which is an instrument
that measures air pressure so that a pilot can find out how fast he's
flying. But according to the plaque it came mounted on, this
particular pitot tube had been on the nose of the X-1 on, as it said,.
"10-14-47." That's the day we reached Mach 1 . . .Murac Air Base . . .
That old plane part felt cool to the touch, but the memory it brought
back was of a little orange aircraft sitting on Rogers Dry Lake bed
and shimmering in the Mohave Desert heat . . . the Glamorous Glennis,
I'd called the X-1.
The General has a way with words too, doesn't he.

Ron


Especially when describing what a Pitot tube is and what it does. ;-)

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