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Old January 6th 06, 05:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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As many of you probably know, recent midwest weather has been a steady
stream of low overcast, misty, and foggy days prohibiting most VFR flight
and making IFR flights a spin of the icing roulette wheel. I thought it may
be a good opportunity for us to review NASA's icing online courses.

http://aircrafticing.grc.nasa.gov/courses.html

Jim


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Old January 6th 06, 05:47 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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("Jim Burns" wrote)
As many of you probably know, recent midwest weather has been a steady
stream of low overcast, misty, and foggy days prohibiting most VFR flight
and making IFR flights a spin of the icing roulette wheel. I thought it
may be a good opportunity for us to review NASA's icing online courses.

http://aircrafticing.grc.nasa.gov/courses.html



"The streak of cloudy days continues. If it weren't for about 2 hours of
filtered sun on New Years Day this would be the 14th completely cloudy day
in a row."

http://www.crh.noaa.gov/crnews/display_story.php?wfo=mpx&storyid=1047&source=0
NOAA - Persistent Lack of Sunshine in the Twin Cities

http://www.kare11.com/weather/weather_article.aspx?storyid=115912
Local news blip


Montblack

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Old January 6th 06, 07:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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: "The streak of cloudy days continues. If it weren't for about 2 hours of
: filtered sun on New Years Day this would be the 14th completely cloudy day
: in a row."

Hey... that little window let me fly home (Wisconsin-Virginia) on New Year's
Day.... Take what you can get!

-Cory

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Old January 7th 06, 04:03 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Hey... that little window let me fly home (Wisconsin-Virginia) on New
Year's
Day.... Take what you can get!


Hey, we flew VFR from Iowa City to Janesville, WI (and back) last Sunday.

The last 45 minutes were, um, interesting. The temperature and dew points
began to converge, as the sun began to set, and sky conditions dropped from
11,000 broken to a very optimistic 1300 overcast -- across a 250 mile wide
stretch of terrain -- in about 20 minutes. It was the most widespread
deterioration I've ever seen.

I was glad to be on the ground at the end of that flight. We were still
legal VFR, but visibility was 5 miles or less, and nasty icing was occurring
less than a thousand feet up.

Other than that, we haven't flown diddly squat in weeks. Our last fly-in
guest was sometime around Thanksgiving. Worst flying weather I've ever
seen.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old January 7th 06, 02:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Jay Honeck wrote:
Hey... that little window let me fly home (Wisconsin-Virginia) on New
Year's
Day.... Take what you can get!



Hey, we flew VFR from Iowa City to Janesville, WI (and back) last Sunday.

The last 45 minutes were, um, interesting. The temperature and dew points
began to converge, as the sun began to set, and sky conditions dropped from
11,000 broken to a very optimistic 1300 overcast -- across a 250 mile wide
stretch of terrain -- in about 20 minutes. It was the most widespread
deterioration I've ever seen.

I was glad to be on the ground at the end of that flight. We were still
legal VFR, but visibility was 5 miles or less, and nasty icing was occurring
less than a thousand feet up.

Other than that, we haven't flown diddly squat in weeks. Our last fly-in
guest was sometime around Thanksgiving. Worst flying weather I've ever
seen.


Yes, I feel your pain. I haven't flown since a trip in October to New
Hampshire where I got some ice on the return trip. I was off two weeks
at Christmas and the weather was either icing conditions or low vis
every day the entire time I was off work!


Matt
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Old January 8th 06, 02:11 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Jay Honeck wrote:

Other than that, we haven't flown diddly squat in weeks. Our last fly-in
guest was sometime around Thanksgiving. Worst flying weather I've ever
seen.


So between the weather and my work backing up, at least my engine picked
a good time to make metal. It is off the airplane waiting for the crate
to arrive from Penn Yan. I last flew on a return trip over Thanksgiving
weekend. Pulled the filter right after that trip (11 hours after
finding metal in the filter during the october annual) and found as much
metal as the previous 30+ hour filter had in it, so I grounded it.

The engine is 26 months and 178 hours out of a new limits Penn Yan
overhaul with new ECI titan stud assemblies, new cam, new accessory
gears, new oil pump, all new accessories, etc. About all that wasn't new
was the crank and case, and those were reworked during the overhaul.

The intake cam lobe for the #3 and #4 cylinders failed and is worn down
considerably, hence the engine coming off and waiting for the crate.
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Old January 8th 06, 04:43 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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The intake cam lobe for the #3 and #4 cylinders failed and is worn down
considerably, hence the engine coming off and waiting for the crate.


I've been following your engine woes with great interest, Ray, and not a
small bit of horror. To say you are living one of my worst nightmares is
not far from the truth, and I feel your pain.

Does anyone *really* know what causes a camshaft to fail like this? I read
about it happening with alarming regularity, and it's never attributed to
anything in particular. It's always treated like an act of God, or like a
weather phenomenon, rather than like the mechanical failure it is.

And mechanical failures should have simple explanations, no? WHY did one
of the cam lobes fail? Why didn't ALL of the cam lobes fail?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old February 1st 06, 04:16 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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I guess I understand now how you fellows and gals have
time to work on your airplane. Down here in sunny Texas,
it is almost always good flying weather, and given the choice
between flying and tinkering, I always seem to pick flying.

Ronnie

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:24Hvf.682611$x96.306653@attbi_s72...
Hey... that little window let me fly home (Wisconsin-Virginia) on New
Year's
Day.... Take what you can get!


Hey, we flew VFR from Iowa City to Janesville, WI (and back) last Sunday.

The last 45 minutes were, um, interesting. The temperature and dew
points began to converge, as the sun began to set, and sky conditions
dropped from 11,000 broken to a very optimistic 1300 overcast -- across a
250 mile wide stretch of terrain -- in about 20 minutes. It was the most
widespread deterioration I've ever seen.

I was glad to be on the ground at the end of that flight. We were still
legal VFR, but visibility was 5 miles or less, and nasty icing was
occurring less than a thousand feet up.

Other than that, we haven't flown diddly squat in weeks. Our last fly-in
guest was sometime around Thanksgiving. Worst flying weather I've ever
seen.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"




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Old January 7th 06, 04:52 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Please don't crosspost to *every* aviation newsgroup.


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Old January 7th 06, 09:34 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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Scott Draper wrote:

Please don't crosspost to *every* aviation newsgroup.


You mean, Like you just did?
 




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