Dan Rather forges ahead

From: "Thomas J. Paladino Jr."
Date: 9/12/2004 10:42 PM Central Daylight Time
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"ArtKramr" wrote in message
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Subject: Dan Rather forges ahead
From: "Jarg"
Date: 9/11/2004 5:32 PM Pacific Standard Time
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"Bob Coe" wrote in message
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I just don't see how a person like Dan Rather could be so easily duped
by
these forgeries. They weren't even originals! Hell even I can cut out
someone's
signature and put it on any letter I want with just a Xerox machine.
Today
I would just use my scanner and add it to my MS Word document.



I give him the benefit of the doubt - he saw what he wanted to see.


No, I think Dan Rather was putting his reputation behind a known
forgery, to give it credence, and to hurt the Republican party. I hope
it now results in his finally being put out to pasture (which should
have
happened 10 years ago anyway). Same with the other scum-bags on
60 minutes, who are always making a mountain out of a mole hill.



I'm sure he has no qualms about hurting the Republican party, but I still
think it unlikely he knew.

Jarg

Nothing to know. These were the real thing. The rest is just the usual
Neocon
spin.


Hey, what's a neocon?

Art doesn't have a definition and isn't man enough to say so.

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

"B2431" wrote in message
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From: "Kevin Brooks"
Date: 9/12/2004 9:40 PM Central Daylight Time
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"ArtKramr" wrote in message
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Subject: Dan Rather forges ahead
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Date: 9/12/2004 6:17 PM Pacific Standard Time
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From: (ArtKramr)
Date: 9/12/2004 7:15 PM Central Daylight Time
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typical non answer from someone who refuses to respond to
questions,
who
disrespects himself and others, who behaves as a child and breaks
his
promises.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired


What did you say you did in the Air Force?


Arthur Kramer


Actually I have given you the answer to that at least once before. I
don't
expect you to admit it since you are not an honourable man.

What did you say a neocon is? If you don't know the answer at least be
man
enough to say so.

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired


Typical no answer answer.

Bwahaha! Coming from the undisputed and still "King of Refusing to Answer
Direct Questions", that is a hoot, Cosmo! What did you say a neocon was
again? Ooops--shouldn't have put in that "again", should I? You never
answered it the first time...or the second...or the forty-eighth time...
At
some point you are really gonna have to stop using words you can't
understand the meaning of.

Brooks

Arthur Kramer

You mean like the time last week he called clinton a combat veteran for
fighting impeachment? He lost that fight.

Yeah, Art is sometimes the very embodiment of the "one legged man at an ass
kicking contest" characterization.

Brooks


Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

"Cub Driver" wrote in message
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On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 11:42:18 -0500, "Bob Coe" wrote:

Someone called it "Rathergate" and I thought this was pretty funny, since
CBS attaches -gate to just about everything political.

It's astonishing how little play this story is getting. Compare how
excited the networks and the newspapers got about Republicans'
contributing (oh no!) to the Swifties advertising pot.

But here is CBS News, where Walter Cronkite once reigned, peddling
forgeries that very likely were created by the Kerry campaign. But
when you Google "CBS forgeries", the returns you get are all from
second-tier newspapers with Republican proclivities, like the New York
Post.

Well, Dan, it's not like Cronkite didn't slant the news to fit his
political agenda.

There was one good story in the Washington Post. (The post, for all
its overt partisanship, is a very honest newspaper.) I'd be very
grateful if anyone could point me to stories in the New Times or Los
Angeles Times, for example.
all the best -- Dan Ford

Jim Yanik wrote:

I suspect he didn't even READ the articles I listed.


Art doesn't read anything. If I didn't believe he was actually a qualified B-26
Bombardier I'd suspect he *couldn't* read.


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

"John Keeney" wrote in
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"Cub Driver" wrote in message
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On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 11:42:18 -0500, "Bob Coe" wrote:

Someone called it "Rathergate" and I thought this was pretty funny,
since CBS attaches -gate to just about everything political.

It's astonishing how little play this story is getting. Compare how
excited the networks and the newspapers got about Republicans'
contributing (oh no!) to the Swifties advertising pot.

But here is CBS News, where Walter Cronkite once reigned, peddling
forgeries that very likely were created by the Kerry campaign. But
when you Google "CBS forgeries", the returns you get are all from
second-tier newspapers with Republican proclivities, like the New
York Post.

Well, Dan, it's not like Cronkite didn't slant the news to fit his
political agenda.

There was one good story in the Washington Post. (The post, for all
its overt partisanship, is a very honest newspaper.) I'd be very
grateful if anyone could point me to stories in the New Times or Los
Angeles Times, for example.
all the best -- Dan Ford




ABC had a piece on the forgeries,a very good one,that detailed several
things wrong with them,but that was yesterday,and the URL is not good
today.
I would not consider ABC to have "Republican proclivities".

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net

Tom Cervo wrote:

Flynn said it's "very unlikely" that the memos are legit, adding that
he knows of no typewriter fonts using proportionally spaced Roman type
with a raised "th" available in the 1970s.


Come off it, Dan, anyone who used a typewriter knew the trick of lifting the
roller a smidge (or lowering it) for sub (or super) script. You must not have
ever typed footnotes.

The problem is, the superscript in question is in a smaller type, rather than
in the same size type as it would be in the example you cite.

8-point vs. 12 point.

In article ,
Bill Jameson wrote:

BUFDRVR wrote:
Tom Cervo wrote:


Come off it, Dan, anyone who used a typewriter knew the trick of lifting
the
roller a smidge (or lowering it) for sub (or super) script. You must not
have
ever typed footnotes.


The issue isn't the raised "th", but the fact that the "th" is written in a
smaller font as well.

From 1968 on SMC (Smith Corona) typewriters had two optional keyface
slots (shift one and shift +) for a number of optional letters, accents
and marks. I had section and paragraph marks on mine as I clerked in a
law office. "rd" and "nd" superscripts were also available.

Did they also offer proportional spacing and intercharacter kerning?

From: Steve Hix NVALID

Did they also offer proportional spacing and intercharacter kerning?

Hey, watch the language.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 09:36:12 -0400, Bill Jameson
wrote:

From 1968 on SMC (Smith Corona) typewriters had two optional keyface
slots (shift one and shift +) for a number of optional letters, accents
and marks. I had section and paragraph marks on mine as I clerked in a
law office. "rd" and "nd" superscripts were also available.

Bill, you're part way to a $10,000 reward! Go to www.vivabush.org and
see how to collect.

all the best -- Dan Ford
email: (put Cubdriver in subject line)

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Steve Hix wrote:
In article ,
Bill Jameson wrote:


BUFDRVR wrote:

Tom Cervo wrote:



Come off it, Dan, anyone who used a typewriter knew the trick of lifting
the
roller a smidge (or lowering it) for sub (or super) script. You must not
have
ever typed footnotes.


The issue isn't the raised "th", but the fact that the "th" is written in a
smaller font as well.

From 1968 on SMC (Smith Corona) typewriters had two optional keyface
slots (shift one and shift +) for a number of optional letters, accents
and marks. I had section and paragraph marks on mine as I clerked in a
law office. "rd" and "nd" superscripts were also available.


Did they also offer proportional spacing and intercharacter kerning?

Well, contemporary to the SCM typewriters above, the IBM Executive
models did have proportional spacing and intercharacter kerning. These
were typebar models (not typeball like the IBM Selectric) The backspace
on the one I used would move 1/5 of the width of the letter "w."

I do not know if any of the IBM Executives had something similar to the
optional keyspace slots on the SCM. The one I used certainly didn't as I
can still remember making section mark symbols with capital 'S,'
backspace, backspace, backspace, roll platten down, capital 'S.'

Bill Jameson