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On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 13:06:57 -0700, Tony wrote:
I know i need to get audio Eric. I'm still holding out that I'll win the Clear Nav raffle at New Castle...But yea I should work on freeing up enough panel space for another vario. If you see a used Borgelt B.40 going begging at a nice price - grab it. They make nice noises, have a very fast response, are designed to have a 9v battery fitted in the back as emergency power and Mike Borgelt's repair service is fast despite him being in Australia. Their only demerit is that you have to push a button to see the average. The other one to look for is the Tasman V.1000. It has all the stuff mentioned for the B.40 plus an LCD display which uses blocks round the edge for instantant climb rate and a digital average in the middle, though its backup battery is an optional extra. However, you can't fit a MacCready ring to either of them, which is a good reason for retaining your mechanical vario as a backup. Just so you know, I have a B.40 as my backup (and swap the 9v battery annually) but was about to buy a new V.1000 when the used B.40 was offered to me. -- martin@ | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org | |
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On Sep 20, 2:06*pm, Tony wrote:
On Sep 19, 7:13*pm, Eric Greenwell wrote: On 9/18/2010 7:23 PM, Tony wrote: On Sep 18, 5:49 pm, *wrote: Maybe, maybe not. I still think the MNAV vario was very nice and I never felt quite as good about the 302. Andy i've got a mechanical Winter in the Cherokee and I'm kind of afraid to replace it. After 5 years together I really know how to read that vario and use it to center lift fairly quickly I think. *I am tuned to the glider and the vario. The three of us are a system. You'll get used to a new one in a few flights, and you don't have get rid of the Winter. Lots of pilots like mechanical as a backup. You should get a vario with an audio, though! -- Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (netto to net to email me) - "Transponders in Sailplanes - Feb/2010" also ADS-B, PCAS, Flarmhttp://tinyurl.com/yb3xywl - "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation Mar/2004" Much of what you need to know tinyurl.com/yfs7tnz I know i need to get audio Eric. I'm still holding out that I'll win the Clear Nav raffle at New Castle...But yea I should work on freeing up enough panel space for another vario.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - My old CNAV still works very well, The CNAV's and MNavs come along occasionally at reasonable prices. Brian |
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On Sep 20, 5:37*pm, Martin Gregorie
wrote: On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 13:06:57 -0700, Tony wrote: I know i need to get audio Eric. I'm still holding out that I'll win the Clear Nav raffle at New Castle...But yea I should work on freeing up enough panel space for another vario. If you see a used Borgelt B.40 going begging at a nice price - grab it. They make nice noises, have a very fast response, are designed to have a 9v battery fitted in the back as emergency power and Mike Borgelt's repair service is fast despite him being in Australia. Their only demerit is that you have to push a button to see the average. The other one to look for is the Tasman V.1000. It has all the stuff mentioned for the B.40 plus an LCD display which uses blocks round the edge for instantant climb rate and a digital average in the middle, though its backup battery is an optional extra. However, you can't fit a MacCready ring to either of them, which is a good reason for retaining your mechanical vario as a backup. Just so you know, I have a B.40 as my backup (and swap the 9v battery annually) but was about to buy a new V.1000 when the used B.40 was offered to me. -- martin@ * | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org * * * | yep martin, i've been keeping an eye out for either one for a while. its obvious they are good varios. the people who have them seem to keep them. |
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On Sep 20, 6:18*pm, Tony wrote:
On Sep 20, 5:37*pm, Martin Gregorie wrote: On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 13:06:57 -0700, Tony wrote: I know i need to get audio Eric. I'm still holding out that I'll win the Clear Nav raffle at New Castle...But yea I should work on freeing up enough panel space for another vario. If you see a used Borgelt B.40 going begging at a nice price - grab it. They make nice noises, have a very fast response, are designed to have a 9v battery fitted in the back as emergency power and Mike Borgelt's repair service is fast despite him being in Australia. Their only demerit is that you have to push a button to see the average. The other one to look for is the Tasman V.1000. It has all the stuff mentioned for the B.40 plus an LCD display which uses blocks round the edge for instantant climb rate and a digital average in the middle, though its backup battery is an optional extra. However, you can't fit a MacCready ring to either of them, which is a good reason for retaining your mechanical vario as a backup. Just so you know, I have a B.40 as my backup (and swap the 9v battery annually) but was about to buy a new V.1000 when the used B.40 was offered to me. -- martin@ * | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org * * * | yep martin, i've been keeping an eye out for either one for a while. its obvious they are good varios. the people who have them seem to keep them. Tony, my friend Dan is selling his Tasman, it is listed on Paul Remdes website. My favorite "club" vario is the iLEC SC-7, it also has a McReadring option. Brad |
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Tony, my friend Dan is selling his Tasman, it is listed on Paul Remdes website. My favorite "club" vario is the iLEC SC-7, it also has a McReadring option. Brad i just emailed him |
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On Sep 20, 8:42*pm, Tony wrote:
Tony, my friend Dan is selling his Tasman, it is listed on Paul Remdes website. My favorite "club" vario is the iLEC SC-7, it also has a McReadring option. Brad i just emailed him hmmm will the Tasman V1000 work on just a static port or does it have to have a TE Probe? No Total Energy on the Cherokee... |
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On Sep 21, 7:25*am, Tony wrote:
On Sep 20, 8:42*pm, Tony wrote: Tony, my friend Dan is selling his Tasman, it is listed on Paul Remdes website. My favorite "club" vario is the iLEC SC-7, it also has a McReadring option. Brad i just emailed him hmmm will the Tasman V1000 work on just a static port or does it have to have a TE Probe? *No Total Energy on the Cherokee... Tony, add one of those vertical Nicks tubes to the Cherokee. what does your winter vario use? Brad |
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On Sep 21, 9:40*am, Brad wrote:
On Sep 21, 7:25*am, Tony wrote: On Sep 20, 8:42*pm, Tony wrote: Tony, my friend Dan is selling his Tasman, it is listed on Paul Remdes website. My favorite "club" vario is the iLEC SC-7, it also has a McReadring option. Brad i just emailed him hmmm will the Tasman V1000 work on just a static port or does it have to have a TE Probe? *No Total Energy on the Cherokee... Tony, add one of those vertical Nicks tubes to the Cherokee. what does your winter vario use? Brad my winter is plumbed to the flask on one side and the static system on the other. i had a homemade vertical tube sticking up just behind the turtle deck in years past. Built it according to Dick Johnson's article. When I recovered the glider I left it off. Vario seems to work about the same with or without it. Perhaps that drag reduction is why I've had so many long flights this season |
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On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 07:50:26 -0700, Tony wrote:
i had a homemade vertical tube sticking up just behind the turtle deck in years past. Built it according to Dick Johnson's article. When I recovered the glider I left it off. Vario seems to work about the same with or without it. Perhaps that drag reduction is why I've had so many long flights this season AFAIK none of the simple vario+averager type instruments have electronic TE compensation - the B.40 and V.1000 certainly don't. If you do get a pressure sensing vario, as opposed to a capacity flask/ flow type, and retain the Winter, you should at least glance at this: http://www.borgeltinstruments.com/in...stallation.pdf -- martin@ | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org | |
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, Tony wrote: On Sep 20, 5:37*pm, Martin Gregorie w However, you can't fit a MacCready ring to either of them, which is a good reason for retaining your mechanical vario as a backup. Just so you know, I have a B.40 as my backup (and swap the 9v battery annually) but was about to buy a new V.1000 when the used B.40 was offered to me. -- martin@ * | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org * * * | yep martin, i've been keeping an eye out for either one for a while. its obvious they are good varios. the people who have them seem to keep them. Been running a B40 for about 10 years as my primary vario. Small Winter mechanical as a backup. MacCready ring on the Winter is for a DG600. My glider is a H301 Libelle. Eh, close enough. In all seriousness, I like the B40 as well or better than nearly any other vario that I've flown with. The only thing I can say negative about it is that the mechanical needle movement is not completely invulnerable to damage. I forgot about a particularly rough railroad crossing one night and hit it at speed. Car, trailer, and glider launched on a short but exciting flight. The landing was firm. The vario and my Winter ASI were somewhat worse for the experience. Borgelt fixed the vario and I had it back in no time. |
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