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Pushback for small planes
In simulation, I note that I'm apparently expected to have my plane
pushed back from its parking place before I start the engines and taxi, judging from the way the aircraft are parked (with very little room to turn around on their own). Are real small aircraft tugged and pushed back, or do you just start the engines and move out under your own power? -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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Pushback for small planes
Mxsmaniac,
Where are you located. Has anyone taken you up in a real GA plane? --Dan Mxsmanic wrote: In simulation, I note that I'm apparently expected to have my plane pushed back from its parking place before I start the engines and taxi, judging from the way the aircraft are parked (with very little room to turn around on their own). Are real small aircraft tugged and pushed back, or do you just start the engines and move out under your own power? -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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Pushback for small planes
B A R R Y writes:
Small aircraft are typically parked nose out, or with room to get out. You start it up and move out. OK. How do you park it, in that case? If you're in a hanger, you pull it out, by hand or with some sort of mini-tug, set it 90 degrees to the hanger, and start it up. Are small aircraft easy to pull or push by hand (as compared to a car)? -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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Dan writes:
Where are you located. Paris, France. Has anyone taken you up in a real GA plane? No. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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Pushback for small planes
Sometimes you can back the airplane under its own power,
just like the airliners do. The King Air backs up nicely. But since you have to trust that nobody parked a car behind you after your walk-around, I don't do that unless I'm on a taxiway or run-up pad and need to change heading, such as when swinging a compass. "B A R R Y" wrote in message ... | On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 01:15:20 +0200, Mxsmanic | wrote: | | B A R R Y writes: | | Small aircraft are typically parked nose out, or with room to get out. | You start it up and move out. | | OK. How do you park it, in that case? | | You either rotate on one brake into a spot, or push it back into the | space with a towbar. | | Are small aircraft easy to pull or push by hand (as compared to a | car)? | | Yes. They're often like pushing a light car that's out of gear. |
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Pushback for small planes
B A R R Y wrote:
Small aircraft are typically parked nose out, or with room to get out. You start it up and move out. lucky you! I got to push and pull the dang thing, or find someone to help me; and for some reason, it always seem to be going uphill. It is not always possible to taxi right off parking for a number of reasons: for instance there might be other aircraft parked nearby or behind, and it's not considered good manners to blast gravel and dirt onto other aircraft, and/or you might prefer controlling more precisely the manoeuver. Some places ban the practice outright. Not being very mobile this is the most difficult part of the exercise (I know that I would fly more often at night -- when there are fewer people that can be drafted as pushers/pullers -- if that was not an issue); There exist some mechanized or motorized tow-bars but they are awfully expensive; I know how to convert old self propelled lawn mowers that would do the job easily, but I haven't been able to 'sell' the idea where I fly... that's probably what I'll do when I get to own an aircraft. --Sylvain |
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Pushback for small planes
Its considered bad for to "power" out of parking because it throws rock
on the plane next to you. Generally you pull the plane out before starting the engine. Some people use tugs but most use a tow bar and pull it. Its not very heavy unless you have to go up hill. Its about like pulling an economy car by hand. -Robert Mxsmanic wrote: In simulation, I note that I'm apparently expected to have my plane pushed back from its parking place before I start the engines and taxi, judging from the way the aircraft are parked (with very little room to turn around on their own). Are real small aircraft tugged and pushed back, or do you just start the engines and move out under your own power? -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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Pushback for small planes
Recently, Mxsmanic posted:
In simulation, I note that I'm apparently expected to have my plane pushed back from its parking place before I start the engines and taxi, judging from the way the aircraft are parked (with very little room to turn around on their own). Are real small aircraft tugged and pushed back, or do you just start the engines and move out under your own power? It depends on what's around you. Moving a small plane is not a big deal, and it's better to be safe than to ding something because of laziness. You do have to use some common sense in these matters. Neil |
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Pushback for small planes
Neil Gould writes:
It depends on what's around you. Moving a small plane is not a big deal, and it's better to be safe than to ding something because of laziness. You do have to use some common sense in these matters. I notice that my (simulated) Baron has negative pitch adjustment available, below the feather position. Does this mean reverse thrust, or what? I tried setting it to -25 on the ramp with the engines running, and each time I tried it, the engine stalled a few seconds later. Am I supposed to be able to go backwards in a Baron? Is this setting for reverse thrust on landing, or what? Or does it even mean reverse thrust? -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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Pushback for small planes
Recently, Mxsmanic posted:
Neil Gould writes: It depends on what's around you. Moving a small plane is not a big deal, and it's better to be safe than to ding something because of laziness. You do have to use some common sense in these matters. I notice that my (simulated) Baron has negative pitch adjustment available, below the feather position. Does this mean reverse thrust, or what? I tried setting it to -25 on the ramp with the engines running, and each time I tried it, the engine stalled a few seconds later. Am I supposed to be able to go backwards in a Baron? Is this setting for reverse thrust on landing, or what? Or does it even mean reverse thrust? Could it be just another thing that MSFS gets wrong? Why not start a new thread with this question so that you can get an answer from a Baron pilot that you can then ignore and argue with? Neil |
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