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Old January 10th 05, 02:20 AM
Jim Kelly
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Greetings!

I have been plagued by airsickness. Struggled with it during
training but the flights were short and it did go away to some
extent, especially when I made a point of eating fresh ginger
daily.

Now that I am attempting longer flights it is bugging me again.
It seriously spoils the fun and is no doubt dangerous especially
at it's onset due to it's effect on concentration level. It
clearly has something to do with the ear as it seems to be
associated with odd feelings there and the vario volume level
waning (and lots of yawning which seems to clear this).

Google research brings up ideas under these general areas:


* Hydration (already do this well)

* Oxygen

* Ginger is a natural anti-emetic
Candied Ginger and Gingersnaps
Ginger powder (from the grocery store) loaded into gelatin
capsules and taken before flight.

* Woodside Biomedical ReliefBand (electrically stimulates the
median nerve)
http://www.aeromedix.com/?_siteid=ae...n=sku&sku=rbel

* An over-the-counter "drug" which has no systemic effect
and is therefore okay in the FAA's eyes. It's called Emetrol
(phosphorated carbohydrates) and comes as a sweet syrup.
It is a formula based on the traditional use of Coke syrup as a
nausea treatment (back in the days when soda fountains actually
used the stuff). Dosage is one teaspoon per hour, and some people
find it helpful.

* Acupuncture needles are applied to the inside of the wrist to
stimulate the median nerve. This stimulation seems to block the
nausea reflex for reasons which are still not entirely clear.

* So-called "acupressure bands" have started appearing in pilot
shops and catalogs. These are elastic bands with protrusions that
apply pressure to the wrist, supposedly to stimulate the median
nerve in the fashion of acupuncture.


Anyone able to share any ways that they have conquered this
curse??

Many thanks,

Jim Kelly

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Old January 10th 05, 02:53 AM
Mal.com
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ginger beer, ginger ale, ginger chews,
http://gingerpeople.com/order_chews.html

drink lots of water hydration urine colour color clear ?
what about your diet ?
and Beer or wine ?

Try colloidal silver works very well I have had 8 tumours plus one lipoma
out each year for last 3 years.

http://www.colloidalsilver.net.au/feedback.htm .

Get your Thyroid levels checked that was the cause of my motion sickness and
tumours I did not throw up but felt ill.

Ginger and motion sickness...
Why is ginger ale served on airplanes? Many studies have shown that ginger
eases motion sickness and aids digestion. Commission E (a panel of experts
appointed by the German equivalent of the FDA and considered to be the world's
most reliable source on herbal remedies) recommends consuming ginger to
prevent motion sickness. In one study reported in The Lancet, ginger
capsules were more effective than Dramamine in reducing motion sickness
induced by a revolving chair. It's no coincidence that ginger ale, as a
soothing beverage, has been served on the airlines nearly since the
beginning of commercial aviation. Today, more chefs in the travel industry
(airlines and cruise ships) are appreciating ginger's curative powers and
incorporating it into many dishes, from sauces to desserts. As a flavour,
ginger adds a clean freshness of its own while lifting the other flavours in
a recipe. If you are a member of a commercial test kitchen or are a
manufacturer who supplies the travel industry, please call or email us for
working samples.

http://gingerpeople.com/health.html

good luck Jim.

Mal


"Jim Kelly" wrote in message
u...
Greetings!

I have been plagued by airsickness. Struggled with it during
training but the flights were short and it did go away to some
extent, especially when I made a point of eating fresh ginger
daily.

Now that I am attempting longer flights it is bugging me again.
It seriously spoils the fun and is no doubt dangerous especially
at it's onset due to it's effect on concentration level. It
clearly has something to do with the ear as it seems to be
associated with odd feelings there and the vario volume level
waning (and lots of yawning which seems to clear this).

Google research brings up ideas under these general areas:


* Hydration (already do this well)

* Oxygen

* Ginger is a natural anti-emetic
Candied Ginger and Gingersnaps
Ginger powder (from the grocery store) loaded into gelatin
capsules and taken before flight.

* Woodside Biomedical ReliefBand (electrically stimulates the
median nerve)
http://www.aeromedix.com/?_siteid=ae...n=sku&sku=rbel

* An over-the-counter "drug" which has no systemic effect
and is therefore okay in the FAA's eyes. It's called Emetrol
(phosphorated carbohydrates) and comes as a sweet syrup.
It is a formula based on the traditional use of Coke syrup as a
nausea treatment (back in the days when soda fountains actually
used the stuff). Dosage is one teaspoon per hour, and some people
find it helpful.

* Acupuncture needles are applied to the inside of the wrist to
stimulate the median nerve. This stimulation seems to block the
nausea reflex for reasons which are still not entirely clear.

* So-called "acupressure bands" have started appearing in pilot
shops and catalogs. These are elastic bands with protrusions that
apply pressure to the wrist, supposedly to stimulate the median
nerve in the fashion of acupuncture.


Anyone able to share any ways that they have conquered this
curse??

Many thanks,

Jim Kelly



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Old January 10th 05, 05:49 PM
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Jim: I know of a remedy that REALLY works, (years of experience in
ocean voyaging), and is based on NASA space research, but I am
reluctant to discuss it in a public forum for reasons that I will make
known to you if you email me at:
Regards,

Matt

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Old January 10th 05, 06:17 PM
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Sorry --- didn't realize the new format disguises email addresses:
matt(at)takestockphotos dot com

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Old January 10th 05, 06:37 PM
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If he lets the secret out it'll kill a whole industry selling snake oil to
cure motion sickness!!!

Ian


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Old January 11th 05, 10:24 PM
Jim Kelly
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For those punters wondering, Matt has some very helpful
information that is not suited to pilots in command.

Cheers,

Jim


wrote in message
oups.com...
Jim: I know of a remedy that REALLY works, (years of experience
in
ocean voyaging), and is based on NASA space research, but I am
reluctant to discuss it in a public forum for reasons that I will
make
known to you if you email me at:
Regards,

Matt

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Old January 10th 05, 04:39 PM
Bruno
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I am in the boat business and ran across a product at a boat show.
After doing research on it, I found that many of the boating magazines
rave about it. I do not sell this. I took it on a cruise for the
initial test and saw first hand that it helped 6-7 people, a few who
were already puking and the rest very close to losing their lunch.
They said they felt 90-100% better. I can't wait to try it more on the
people I give glider rides to. Take a look at www.motionease.com -
again, I have nothing to do with this product and only became a
believer after I saw it work.

On their website they say: Motion Eaze vertigo medication, motion
sickness remedy and sea sickness remedy includes a proprietary blend of
herbal oils including; Birch, Chamomile, Frankincense, Lavender, Myrrh,
Peppermint and Ylang-Ylang.

Bruno
http://phoebus.vassel.com

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Old January 10th 05, 08:02 PM
John Galloway
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Consider:

http://www.reliefband.com/main.html

Cinnarizine is the most effective treatment I have
used but, like all anti-emetics, it is a little too
sedative to recommend for use in flight. Of the non-medicinal
remedies Relief Bands are the only things that really
have any benefit for me. I have never been sick while
using them although I have occasionally had longs spells
of queasiness as P2 in a 2 seater. This is more positive
than it sounds as previously, throughout 50+ years
of motion sickness, if I ever started to feel nauseated
I would inevitably vomit. As P1 I have never been
in the slightest nauseated while using the Relief Bands.

John Galloway





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Old January 10th 05, 09:16 PM
Edward Lockhart
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At 19:30 10 January 2005, Tango4 wrote:
If he lets the secret out it'll kill a whole industry
selling snake oil to
cure motion sickness!!!

Ian


A reasonable assumption but I'm betting pharmaceutical
(for NASA researchers) dope; not available on prescription
but still easily purchased in your local neighbourhood.

It's been many, many years but as I remember it you
want to fill your stomach, not empty it.

Come on Matt, you can't post teasers like this on newsgroups
without us uninformed rabble speculating wildly.

Ed.

ps. I have a lot of respect for NASA and their achievements
and sacrifices over the years but, all of a sudden,
I can't help wondering whether a bong would work in
zero G.



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Old January 11th 05, 06:29 PM
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Ed: The NASA research involves several heavy-duty drugs, one of which
is on the restricted list. That is why I am reluctant to post the
information on a public forum. I don't even know whether their use
would be legal under FAA requlations.

One of the drugs, Scopolomine, is readily available in the form of
anti-motion sickness ear tabs, and I am sure there would be no problem
using that alone. The other drug is not readily available, and I am
reluctant to name it.

For anyone who is still curious, I have written an account of my wife's
experiences (severe sea sickness completely cured), and I will be happy
to pass that along in private email: matt(at)takestockphotos.dot.com
Regards,

Matt

 




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