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Then you better read the ebay listing again.....................
"Veeduber" wrote in message ... Listen up Mr. HARRY O I think we all heard what you had to say. And what you failed to say, too. -R.S.Hoover |
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Of course it was Mr. Newsgroup Judge.................
"Richard Lamb" wrote in message ... It was a legitimate 'buyer beware' question... JR wrote: Listen up Mr. HARRY O Your remark to make the aircraft sound unsafe was a fruitless attempt to keep the plane from selling. If you would had read the eBay listing it states I would prefer someone who is familiar with the VP1 and plans to make corrections if desired on such things. The jury struts can be easily installed by anyone who can drill two holes. Furthermore if you look at the pictures of the VP1 http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/volksplane/lst you would notice more than half of the planes don't have them. Lastly, over the hundreds of hours documented in the plane's log book I would say its safe to fly as is. And to be exact The drawing for the jury struts is on page 48a and is dated 9-7-71 so plans prior to that DID NOT USE THEM. The ad states this is a homebuilt and buyer should be aware. If you wouldn't touch it,then move on and quit publicly bad mouthing my airplane and quit trying to get others to jump on the bandwagon with you, your not that convincing. "Harry O" wrote in message ... Actually, I wouldn't touch any airplane that left out structural parts. I was pointing it out for those who might not be as familiar with the airplane. But, since you are here, why were the jury struts (which keep the wing struts from buckling under compression load) left off? This is particularly important with the VP-1 since the wing struts are almost always under compression. "JR" wrote in message om... Hello-Why not ask me the seller? Duh "Harry O" wrote in message ... Interesting. It does not have the "jury strut" between the front spar and the front strut brace (which is called out on the plans). I wonder what else was skipped. "JR" wrote in message ... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...MESE%3AIT&rd=1 |
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Nothing else was skiped, as you would like to have others believe-
The plane as documented in its logs flew hundreds of hours with out jury struts. You are trying to make a big deal over nothing. When in reality there isn't much involved,drilling an extra hole in the strut and having a tube welded in,cutting a piece of aluminum angle to shape, drilling a few holes and cutting a piece of streamline tube. The drawback is a little more drag but the extra strength in the strut offsets that. "Harry O" wrote in message ... Interesting. It does not have the "jury strut" between the front spar and the front strut brace (which is called out on the plans). I wonder what else was skipped. "JR" wrote in message ... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...MESE%3AIT&rd=1 |
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"JR" wrote in message om... Nothing else was skiped, as you would like to have others believe- The plane as documented in its logs flew hundreds of hours with out jury struts. You are trying to make a big deal over nothing. When in reality there isn't much involved,drilling an extra hole in the strut and having a tube welded in,cutting a piece of aluminum angle to shape, drilling a few holes and cutting a piece of streamline tube. The drawback is a little more drag but the extra strength in the strut offsets that. One does have to ask the question, WHY. Why don't you install them if the designer says they are needed, and you acknowlege that it is no big deal?? It seems to me that you are not a believer in "full disclosure". I personally thought the a/p was worth a look, but my perception of your willingness to hide things dictates I pass on it. Your loss for not being forthcoming with all the facts......................... Scott |
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Another crawls out of the wood work-welcome!
The VP1 is the issue at hand not eBay "nauga" wrote in message link.net... JR wrote... And I wouldn't sell to someone who can't spell................... I've never had to take a spelling test for anything I've bought on eBay, but I'm kinda new at this. Dave 'reel gud' Hyde |
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Scott-
I really don't care if you look or not............it's your lost at this price. I am not hiding anything, I bought the plane like this and it will be sold AS-IS. And if you can't catch things that are missed or the builder is unaware of on an experimental/homebuilt then you should buy a GA aircraft. And further more for the record in the listing"The Ad states the plane needs an Annual Conditional Inspection", So if the A&P who signs off the plane deems something is necessary you will know..............the ad goes on further to say it needs registered which means an FAA official would have to look over the plane. So, Scott-I don't think I'll lose any sleep by you not looking at the A/P. Later, JR "plasticguy" wrote in message ... "JR" wrote in message om... Nothing else was skiped, as you would like to have others believe- The plane as documented in its logs flew hundreds of hours with out jury struts. You are trying to make a big deal over nothing. When in reality there isn't much involved,drilling an extra hole in the strut and having a tube welded in,cutting a piece of aluminum angle to shape, drilling a few holes and cutting a piece of streamline tube. The drawback is a little more drag but the extra strength in the strut offsets that. One does have to ask the question, WHY. Why don't you install them if the designer says they are needed, and you acknowlege that it is no big deal?? It seems to me that you are not a believer in "full disclosure". I personally thought the a/p was worth a look, but my perception of your willingness to hide things dictates I pass on it. Your loss for not being forthcoming with all the facts......................... Scott |
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