DC pilots (update)

On 14 May 2005 07:15:02 -0700, "Flyingmonk"
wrote:

If you are charging for gas they could get very expensive very quick!!
Let us know how much and I'll let you know how many!

Gary

OK, guys... I'm making an official announcement. "Airplanes don't kill
people!, people kill people!" This statement is hereby mine and none
of you better use it without my concent! LOL. Monday I'm going to the
T-shirt shop and ordering me 1000 units of various sizes. Let me know
if anyone wants one. I'll donate 10% of the profits to EAA's Young
Eagles program, promise! I don't know how much they will cost me, but
I won't mark it up much. Just to cover my time and gas money and also
to cover the cost of the beer while I talk my graphics guy into
designing it Pro-Bono.

Let me know how many and what sizes you want. It wont cost much,
promise.


Flyingmonk.

Matt Whiting wrote:

Yes, the AOPA could learn something from the NRA.

True, but I think they'd need at least four times as many members as they have now.

George Patterson
"Naked" means you ain't got no clothes on; "nekkid" means you ain't got
no clothes on - and are up to somethin'.

George Patterson wrote:

Matt Whiting wrote:


Yes, the AOPA could learn something from the NRA.


True, but I think they'd need at least four times as many members as
they have now.

That would help also, but they could be better are organizing their
existing members. Might even be good for some of the freedom-minded
alphabet groups to join together now and then to jointly lobby for
certain legislation.


Matt

Even more important than that, the Legislative Affairs department needs
to adopt NRA's message machine.

Every time there is some legislation up with potential impact on their
members, the NRA sends phone messages, emails, etc. Even if only a
percentage of members take action, the results are quite effective.

Unforatunately, I don't meet many aircraft owners and pilots with the
same degree of passion about protecting their freedoms, and would be
willing to make calls and send notes to their congressional reps.

And AOPA does not do a very good job explaining to a Rec Pilot in Idaho
why what happens in the DC ADIZ may someday effect him/her...

"PPT33R" wrote in message
oups.com...
Even more important than that, the Legislative Affairs department needs
to adopt NRA's message machine.

Every time there is some legislation up with potential impact on their
members, the NRA sends phone messages, emails, etc. Even if only a
percentage of members take action, the results are quite effective.

Unforatunately, I don't meet many aircraft owners and pilots with the
same degree of passion about protecting their freedoms, and would be
willing to make calls and send notes to their congressional reps.

And AOPA does not do a very good job explaining to a Rec Pilot in Idaho
why what happens in the DC ADIZ may someday effect him/her...

Different psychology between owning guns that aeroplanes. Gun nuts are
paranoid anyway, that why they have guns whereas pilots have to be a bit
more balanced.

The most dangerous are gun owning pilots who are paranoid schizophrenics
;-))

Chris wrote:
"PPT33R" wrote in message
oups.com...

Even more important than that, the Legislative Affairs department needs
to adopt NRA's message machine.

Every time there is some legislation up with potential impact on their
members, the NRA sends phone messages, emails, etc. Even if only a
percentage of members take action, the results are quite effective.

Unforatunately, I don't meet many aircraft owners and pilots with the
same degree of passion about protecting their freedoms, and would be
willing to make calls and send notes to their congressional reps.

And AOPA does not do a very good job explaining to a Rec Pilot in Idaho
why what happens in the DC ADIZ may someday effect him/her...


Different psychology between owning guns that aeroplanes. Gun nuts are
paranoid anyway, that why they have guns whereas pilots have to be a bit
more balanced.

Fortunately, most pilots are much better informed that you.

Matt

Gary,

Why do you disparage the student-pilot passenger?


Because he didn't intervene earlier. Seems obvious...

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
...
Gary,

Why do you disparage the student-pilot passenger?

Because he didn't intervene earlier. Seems obvious...

What evidence is there as to what he did or didn't do?

For all we know, he might simply have been taking a nap when the flight
began. There'd be nothing improper about that. He was a non-pilot passenger.

Or for all we know, he might have been making correct navigational
suggestions that the PIC didn't heed.

Or even if the passenger tried to help navigate but was just as lost as the
PIC, that wouldn't necessarily speak poorly of his progress as a student
pilot. Had he already been endorsed for solo cross-country flights? If not,
there should be no expectation that his current training enables him to
navigate reliably.

--Gary

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
...
Chris wrote:
"PPT33R" wrote in message
oups.com...

Even more important than that, the Legislative Affairs department needs
to adopt NRA's message machine.

Every time there is some legislation up with potential impact on their
members, the NRA sends phone messages, emails, etc. Even if only a
percentage of members take action, the results are quite effective.

Unforatunately, I don't meet many aircraft owners and pilots with the
same degree of passion about protecting their freedoms, and would be
willing to make calls and send notes to their congressional reps.

And AOPA does not do a very good job explaining to a Rec Pilot in Idaho
why what happens in the DC ADIZ may someday effect him/her...


Different psychology between owning guns that aeroplanes. Gun nuts are
paranoid anyway, that why they have guns whereas pilots have to be a bit
more balanced.

Fortunately, most pilots are much better informed that you.

Matt

Toads are better informed than he is.

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
...
Chris wrote:
"PPT33R" wrote in message
oups.com...

Even more important than that, the Legislative Affairs department needs
to adopt NRA's message machine.

Every time there is some legislation up with potential impact on their
members, the NRA sends phone messages, emails, etc. Even if only a
percentage of members take action, the results are quite effective.

Unforatunately, I don't meet many aircraft owners and pilots with the
same degree of passion about protecting their freedoms, and would be
willing to make calls and send notes to their congressional reps.

And AOPA does not do a very good job explaining to a Rec Pilot in Idaho
why what happens in the DC ADIZ may someday effect him/her...


Different psychology between owning guns that aeroplanes. Gun nuts are
paranoid anyway, that why they have guns whereas pilots have to be a bit
more balanced.

Fortunately, most pilots are much better informed that you.

Matt

Huhoh. Chris has stepped on a gun nut's tail.