U.S. & ISRAEL SELECTING TARGETS FOR CRUISE MISSILE FIRST-STRIKE ATTACK

I don't know how credible the following is, but it is concerning if it
is (it would be right in accordance with the 'A Clean Break'/war for
Israel agenda that James Bamford discusses on pages 261-269 of his 'A
Pretext for War' book - scroll down to such at
http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/zone0...ic.php?t=28769 and read
more about 'A Clean Break' in the Mearsheimer/Walt paper on the
pro-Israel lobby via http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/print/mear01_.html as
one can scroll down to the 'Pro-Israel lobby under attack' UPI article
at http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/zone0...ic.php?t=49800 as well):

http://space4peace.blogspot.com/2006...or-cruise.html

Sunday, August 06, 2006
U.S. & ISRAEL SELECTING TARGETS FOR CRUISE MISSILE FIRST-STRIKE ATTACK

Multiple military sources have told the Global Network that Pentagon
personnel responsible for selecting targets for cruise missile first
strike attacks have been sent to Israel.

This indicates that U.S. and Israeli military strategists are now
likely meeting to plan a joint attack on Syria and/or Iran.

The Persian Gulf war and the 2003 U.S. invasion of Iraq both began with
cruise missile attacks by the U.S. from Naval ships. U.S. military
satellites were used to guide the missiles to their targets.

It would be wise to recognize that Bush has decided to expand the
current war and chaos into the entire Middle East region. The
implications for the U.S. will be enormous.

Israel's recent bombing of Lebanon near the Syrian border indicate to
me that they are trying to draw a response from Syria. So far Syria has
not responded. Look for more such efforts by Israel and the U.S. to
provoke Syria.

I would highly recommend local peace groups call on their members of
Congress and demand they speak out against a further widening of this
already insane war.

More and larger public protests should be organized immediately.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Neocons' Next War (for Israel):

http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/zone0...ic.php?t=57294


IN WAKE OF QANA, ISRAEL AND U.S. SEEN AS TERRORISTS

by Paul Findley

The ghastly human carnage at Qana, Lebanon, should awaken everyone to
the grim reality that our nation's attachment to Israel is bad news.
It entangles America in one awful mess after another: first 9/11, then
Afghanistan, then Iraq, and now Lebanon. None would have occurred if
our government had refused to support Israel's long subjugation of
the Palestinians.
Instead of continuing to ignore this entanglement with near-total
silence, our citizens should now seek a way out through civilized open
debate and discussion. If so, Qana will be a silver lining--although a
bloody one--in this otherwise engulfing cloud.
Striving as usual to live by the sword, Israelis seem unwilling to face
the stark fact that they will never be truly secure until Palestinians
feel secure in an independent state of their own. Hezbollah's
recent border skirmish was motivated partly by leader Hassan
Nasrallah's desire to show solidarity with the Palestinians in their
lonely, desperate struggle for survival in Gaza.
Using the skirmish as a pretext for war, Israel is now trying to wipe
out northern resistance to their colonialism. The initial goal is the
destruction of the Hezbollah, a popular Lebanese Shi'ite organization
that has long provided social services for local citizens along with
armed resistance to Israeli occupation policies. Six years ago,
Hezbollah handed Israel its only battlefield defeat in history by
forcing it to withdraw its forces from South Lebanon. Perhaps Israelis
believe that bombing Hezbollah and much of Lebanon back to the Stone
Ages will ease the memory of defeat. Israel's major objective in
its latest war-making is the installation of a compliant new regime in
Beirut.
The U.S. government is not a bystander in this gruesome enterprise.
President Bush strongly supports Israel's invasion and publicly
opposes an immediate ceasefire until Israel finishes its long-planned
schedule of killings and destruction. U.S. Secretary of State
Condoleessa Rice smilingly calls these horrors the "birth pangs of a
new Middle East."
If past is prologue, with the help of Congress, Bush will provide
further evidence of U.S. complicity by sending Israel a U.S. Treasury
check big enough to cover Israel's expenses in this latest of seven
invasions of Lebanon. Our government has already expedited a new
supply of laser-guided missiles to Israel and donated $150 million
worth of aviation fuel, a gift that will help finance, among other ugly
missions, the deliberate recurrent terrifying sonic booms that deny
sleep for hapless Palestinians in Gaza.
The Bush team may seriously view Hezbollah as a bunch of evil
terrorists, but the organization rides high as heroes in the
Arab/Muslim world and far beyond. Polls show close to 90 percent
support throughout Lebanon, even in government circles and among
Christians, and strong majority "street" support in other
Arab/Muslim countries. Hezbollah in Lebanon and Hamas, a similar group
recently elected to leadership in Palestine, are broadly admired for
standing tall against Israel, the United States and other Western
powers.
In the wake of the ghastly tide of blood at Qana, the people of the
Middle East--except in Israel--view Israel and Washington as the real
terrorists. In recent years, anti-American passions have focused
mainly against President Bush and his team, but the recent
near-unanimous approval of congressional resolutions endorsing
Israel's war in Lebanon now put Americans generally on the hate list.
Only eight of the 435 members in the U.S. House of
Representatives-self-styled as "the people's" branch of
government-had the courage and decency to vote no. No wonder
Americans are hated as never before.
Surely, the American people are wise and resolute enough to elect a
government that will suspend all government aid until Israel sheathes
its sword, lives by the rule of law, and vacates all Arab territory it
has illegally held since the June 1967 Israeli-Arab war.
America's dangerous attachment to Israel must end. We should have
made a clean break from this warrior state years ago, but better late
than never. -0-
[Published Aug 3, 2006 on op-ed page State Journal-Register,
Springfield, Illinois, the state's largest newspaper outside
Chicago.]

_______________
Paul Findley, Member of Congress 1961-93, lectures widely and is author
of three books on Middle East Affairs. "They Dare to Speak Out People
and Institutions Confront Israel's Lobby," is a seven-week Washington
Post bestseller. He resides in Jacksonville, Illinois.

On 7 Aug 2006 01:02:51 -0700, "dontcowerfromthetruth"
wrote:

I don't know how credible the following is,

Which are weasel words for "this is complete bull**** but don't yell at me
even though I should have known better."

IN WAKE OF QANA, ISRAEL AND U.S. SEEN AS TERRORISTS

by Paul Findley

Here was your first clue.

"...the U.S. government finds itself reviled in most countries because it
provides unconditional support of Israeli violations of the United Nations
Charter, international law, and the precepts of all major religious faiths." -
Paul Findley, Liberating America from Israel, Arab News, September 12, 2002

Israeli violations of the precepts of all major religious faiths?

ROTFLMAO.

Paul Findley, Member of Congress 1961-93,

That's 83, not 93.

dontcowerfromthetruth wrote:

Sunday, August 06, 2006
U.S. & ISRAEL SELECTING TARGETS FOR CRUISE MISSILE FIRST-STRIKE ATTACK

Multiple military sources have told the Global Network that Pentagon
personnel responsible for selecting targets for cruise missile first
strike attacks have been sent to Israel.

Whoever wrote this doesn't know much about ATOs and Battle Plans. We
maintain target lists for every possible conflict that could occur at
all times, even those that seem unlikely. Target lists and cruise
missle programming for targets in Syria and Iran were worked-out a long
time ago and are continuously maintained. We do the same thing for
many other locations around the world.

This indicates that U.S. and Israeli military strategists are now
likely meeting to plan a joint attack on Syria and/or Iran.

No, it doesn't indicate anything other than being prepared for whatever
might happen.

The Persian Gulf war and the 2003 U.S. invasion of Iraq both began with
cruise missile attacks by the U.S. from Naval ships. U.S. military
satellites were used to guide the missiles to their targets.

That's true, but that would be true of any current day response.

It would be wise to recognize that Bush has decided to expand the
current war and chaos into the entire Middle East region. The
implications for the U.S. will be enormous.

No, there is no indiciation of that. In fact, all of his actions to
this point are to the contrary (including those embarassing moments
when he didn't know he was being recorded).

"...U.S. and Israeli military strategists are now likely meeting to plan a
joint attack on Syria and/or Iran...."

They should be fired if they aren't planning to counter any and all possible
strikes against the U.S.A. and it's allies. Or would you prefer we wait
until after the next Twin Towers strike?

end

"dontcowerfromthetruth" wrote in message
ps.com...
I don't know how credible the following is, but it is concerning if it
is (it would be right in accordance with the 'A Clean Break'/war for
Israel agenda that James Bamford discusses on pages 261-269 of his 'A
Pretext for War' book - scroll down to such at
http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/zone0...ic.php?t=28769 and read
more about 'A Clean Break' in the Mearsheimer/Walt paper on the
pro-Israel lobby via http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/print/mear01_.html as
one can scroll down to the 'Pro-Israel lobby under attack' UPI article
at http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/zone0...ic.php?t=49800 as well):

http://space4peace.blogspot.com/2006...or-cruise.html

Sunday, August 06, 2006
U.S. & ISRAEL SELECTING TARGETS FOR CRUISE MISSILE FIRST-STRIKE ATTACK

Multiple military sources have told the Global Network that Pentagon
personnel responsible for selecting targets for cruise missile first
strike attacks have been sent to Israel.

This indicates that U.S. and Israeli military strategists are now
likely meeting to plan a joint attack on Syria and/or Iran.

The Persian Gulf war and the 2003 U.S. invasion of Iraq both began with
cruise missile attacks by the U.S. from Naval ships. U.S. military
satellites were used to guide the missiles to their targets.

It would be wise to recognize that Bush has decided to expand the
current war and chaos into the entire Middle East region. The
implications for the U.S. will be enormous.

Israel's recent bombing of Lebanon near the Syrian border indicate to
me that they are trying to draw a response from Syria. So far Syria has
not responded. Look for more such efforts by Israel and the U.S. to
provoke Syria.

I would highly recommend local peace groups call on their members of
Congress and demand they speak out against a further widening of this
already insane war.

More and larger public protests should be organized immediately.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Neocons' Next War (for Israel):

http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/zone0...ic.php?t=57294


IN WAKE OF QANA, ISRAEL AND U.S. SEEN AS TERRORISTS

by Paul Findley

The ghastly human carnage at Qana, Lebanon, should awaken everyone to
the grim reality that our nation's attachment to Israel is bad news.
It entangles America in one awful mess after another: first 9/11, then
Afghanistan, then Iraq, and now Lebanon. None would have occurred if
our government had refused to support Israel's long subjugation of
the Palestinians.
Instead of continuing to ignore this entanglement with near-total
silence, our citizens should now seek a way out through civilized open
debate and discussion. If so, Qana will be a silver lining--although a
bloody one--in this otherwise engulfing cloud.
Striving as usual to live by the sword, Israelis seem unwilling to face
the stark fact that they will never be truly secure until Palestinians
feel secure in an independent state of their own. Hezbollah's
recent border skirmish was motivated partly by leader Hassan
Nasrallah's desire to show solidarity with the Palestinians in their
lonely, desperate struggle for survival in Gaza.
Using the skirmish as a pretext for war, Israel is now trying to wipe
out northern resistance to their colonialism. The initial goal is the
destruction of the Hezbollah, a popular Lebanese Shi'ite organization
that has long provided social services for local citizens along with
armed resistance to Israeli occupation policies. Six years ago,
Hezbollah handed Israel its only battlefield defeat in history by
forcing it to withdraw its forces from South Lebanon. Perhaps Israelis
believe that bombing Hezbollah and much of Lebanon back to the Stone
Ages will ease the memory of defeat. Israel's major objective in
its latest war-making is the installation of a compliant new regime in
Beirut.
The U.S. government is not a bystander in this gruesome enterprise.
President Bush strongly supports Israel's invasion and publicly
opposes an immediate ceasefire until Israel finishes its long-planned
schedule of killings and destruction. U.S. Secretary of State
Condoleessa Rice smilingly calls these horrors the "birth pangs of a
new Middle East."
If past is prologue, with the help of Congress, Bush will provide
further evidence of U.S. complicity by sending Israel a U.S. Treasury
check big enough to cover Israel's expenses in this latest of seven
invasions of Lebanon. Our government has already expedited a new
supply of laser-guided missiles to Israel and donated $150 million
worth of aviation fuel, a gift that will help finance, among other ugly
missions, the deliberate recurrent terrifying sonic booms that deny
sleep for hapless Palestinians in Gaza.
The Bush team may seriously view Hezbollah as a bunch of evil
terrorists, but the organization rides high as heroes in the
Arab/Muslim world and far beyond. Polls show close to 90 percent
support throughout Lebanon, even in government circles and among
Christians, and strong majority "street" support in other
Arab/Muslim countries. Hezbollah in Lebanon and Hamas, a similar group
recently elected to leadership in Palestine, are broadly admired for
standing tall against Israel, the United States and other Western
powers.
In the wake of the ghastly tide of blood at Qana, the people of the
Middle East--except in Israel--view Israel and Washington as the real
terrorists. In recent years, anti-American passions have focused
mainly against President Bush and his team, but the recent
near-unanimous approval of congressional resolutions endorsing
Israel's war in Lebanon now put Americans generally on the hate list.
Only eight of the 435 members in the U.S. House of
Representatives-self-styled as "the people's" branch of
government-had the courage and decency to vote no. No wonder
Americans are hated as never before.
Surely, the American people are wise and resolute enough to elect a
government that will suspend all government aid until Israel sheathes
its sword, lives by the rule of law, and vacates all Arab territory it
has illegally held since the June 1967 Israeli-Arab war.
America's dangerous attachment to Israel must end. We should have
made a clean break from this warrior state years ago, but better late
than never. -0-
[Published Aug 3, 2006 on op-ed page State Journal-Register,
Springfield, Illinois, the state's largest newspaper outside
Chicago.]

_______________
Paul Findley, Member of Congress 1961-93, lectures widely and is author
of three books on Middle East Affairs. "They Dare to Speak Out People
and Institutions Confront Israel's Lobby," is a seven-week Washington
Post bestseller. He resides in Jacksonville, Illinois.


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"Airyx" wrote:

:
:dontcowerfromthetruth wrote:
:
: Sunday, August 06, 2006
: U.S. & ISRAEL SELECTING TARGETS FOR CRUISE MISSILE FIRST-STRIKE ATTACK
:
: Multiple military sources have told the Global Network that Pentagon
: personnel responsible for selecting targets for cruise missile first
: strike attacks have been sent to Israel.
:
:Whoever wrote this doesn't know much about ATOs and Battle Plans.

They also don't know **** about cruise missile planning. The plans
are produced in the US. Having some guy on scene doesn't do dick for
you.

: The Persian Gulf war and the 2003 U.S. invasion of Iraq both began with
: cruise missile attacks by the U.S. from Naval ships. U.S. military
: satellites were used to guide the missiles to their targets.
:
:That's true, but that would be true of any current day response.

Well, actually it's not all that true. True, GPS is run through a
Joint office headed by USAF, but the things are used by private
citizens all over the place.

You've heard of 'GPS', right?

--
You have never lived until you have almost died.
Life has a special meaning that the protected
will never know.

dontcowerfromthetruth wrote:
I don't know how credible the following is, but it is concerning if it
is (it would be right in accordance with the 'A Clean Break'/war for
Israel agenda that James Bamford discusses on pages 261-269 of his 'A
Pretext for War' book - scroll down to such at...


Well, if it matches up with a book that you've read, I'd say it wasn't
very credible at all...

"dontcowerfromthetruth" wrote in
ps.com:

[snip]

Multiple military sources have told the Global Network that Pentagon
personnel responsible for selecting targets for cruise missile first
strike attacks have been sent to Israel.

Hey the Israelis probably have most Arab gummints pretty well
figured out if not teaming with agents.
So why not ask the Israelis where to insert the nozzle.
It just makes sense....

IBM

Airyx wrote:
dontcowerfromthetruth wrote:

Sunday, August 06, 2006
U.S. & ISRAEL SELECTING TARGETS FOR CRUISE MISSILE FIRST-STRIKE ATTACK

Multiple military sources have told the Global Network that Pentagon
personnel responsible for selecting targets for cruise missile first
strike attacks have been sent to Israel.

Whoever wrote this doesn't know much about ATOs and Battle Plans. We
maintain target lists for every possible conflict that could occur at
all times, even those that seem unlikely. Target lists and cruise
missle programming for targets in Syria and Iran were worked-out a long
time ago and are continuously maintained. We do the same thing for
many other locations around the world.

You don't provide a convincing argument. If the US maintained and
reviewed cruise missile target lists and options for several
contingiencies it doesn't mean at all that those lists wouldn't be
intensively reviewed, detailed and adjusted to meet specific needs and
unforseen circumstances.

A wider war in the middle east has has been brewing in the US and
Israel even before the invasion of Iraq; the politics, ideology,
supporters have been grown over the last decades.




This indicates that U.S. and Israeli military strategists are now
likely meeting to plan a joint attack on Syria and/or Iran.

No, it doesn't indicate anything other than being prepared for whatever
might happen.

The Persian Gulf war and the 2003 U.S. invasion of Iraq both began with
cruise missile attacks by the U.S. from Naval ships. U.S. military
satellites were used to guide the missiles to their targets.

That's true, but that would be true of any current day response.

It would be wise to recognize that Bush has decided to expand the
current war and chaos into the entire Middle East region. The
implications for the U.S. will be enormous.

No, there is no indiciation of that. In fact, all of his actions to
this point are to the contrary (including those embarassing moments
when he didn't know he was being recorded).