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Consider a slow taxi and not at rest. But I would guess the breaker would
pop first if you're not moving. Or maybe the gear motor burn up before the gear would give at rest. -- Regards, BobF. "buttman" wrote in message ... On Mar 21, 6:08 pm, Dan wrote: On Mar 21, 5:42 pm, "Bob F." wrote: Everyone knows the gear can't come up while taxiing anyway, no matter what you do with the switches. You have got to be kidding...? Or else flying a fixed gear. Dan Mc Theres no way the gear can retract while the plane's weight is on the gear. Even if the squat switch were to fail, the gear retraction motor is not going to be powerful enough to bring the gear up from underneath you. |
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On 2008-03-22, Bob F. wrote:
This brings to mind a point to remember for you ATP guys in training. The examiner does not like to see your hand in any position where he has to wonder what you are about to do. Don't rest your hand on ANY control. If you are going to exercise it. Move your hand over, do it, then return to some neutral position. This really is a CRM tactic so that the Pilot Flying (PF) and Pilot Not Flying (PNF) have no confusion about what's going on. Does this include not keeping your hand on the throttle during and immediately after takeoff? Every pilot I know was taught to do this... -- Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net http://www.hercules-390.org (Yes, that's me!) Buy Hercules stuff at http://www.cafepress.com/hercules-390 |
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On Mar 21, 8:13*pm, Dudley Henriques wrote:
I used "Every good pilot must take off fine check" and "Every good pilot must land fine check" Hey Dudley, Please elaborate. Thanks. Wil |
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On Mar 22, 10:59*am, William Hung wrote:
On Mar 21, 8:13*pm, Dudley Henriques wrote: I used "Every good pilot must take off fine check" and "Every good pilot must land fine check" Hey Dudley, Please elaborate. *Thanks. Wil Scratch that Dudley. I just saw yuor reply. Thanks, Wil |
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Hi Jay,
Yes and no. You have to read what I just wrote and keep it in context. Yes on a small airplane, keep your hand on the throttle during those phases you mentioned. That's what you are expected to do. If you are holding onto the throttle in preparation for it's immediate use, that's where it should be. If your are at cruse and for no reason just rest you hand there, then that's the wrong thing to do. A good bump could result in an unintentional throttle setting. You're doing the right thing teaching that way. -- Regards, BobF. "Jay Maynard" wrote in message ... On 2008-03-22, Bob F. wrote: This brings to mind a point to remember for you ATP guys in training. The examiner does not like to see your hand in any position where he has to wonder what you are about to do. Don't rest your hand on ANY control. If you are going to exercise it. Move your hand over, do it, then return to some neutral position. This really is a CRM tactic so that the Pilot Flying (PF) and Pilot Not Flying (PNF) have no confusion about what's going on. Does this include not keeping your hand on the throttle during and immediately after takeoff? Every pilot I know was taught to do this... -- Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net http://www.hercules-390.org (Yes, that's me!) Buy Hercules stuff at http://www.cafepress.com/hercules-390 |
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Jay,
I just had another thought about your clarification question. I would call the state you described the "active ready" position. (I just made that up). Not "rest". That's why what you are teaching is the correct thing to do. -- Regards, BobF. "Bob F." wrote in message . .. Hi Jay, Yes and no. You have to read what I just wrote and keep it in context. Yes on a small airplane, keep your hand on the throttle during those phases you mentioned. That's what you are expected to do. If you are holding onto the throttle in preparation for it's immediate use, that's where it should be. If your are at cruse and for no reason just rest you hand there, then that's the wrong thing to do. A good bump could result in an unintentional throttle setting. You're doing the right thing teaching that way. -- Regards, BobF. "Jay Maynard" wrote in message ... On 2008-03-22, Bob F. wrote: This brings to mind a point to remember for you ATP guys in training. The examiner does not like to see your hand in any position where he has to wonder what you are about to do. Don't rest your hand on ANY control. If you are going to exercise it. Move your hand over, do it, then return to some neutral position. This really is a CRM tactic so that the Pilot Flying (PF) and Pilot Not Flying (PNF) have no confusion about what's going on. Does this include not keeping your hand on the throttle during and immediately after takeoff? Every pilot I know was taught to do this... -- Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net http://www.hercules-390.org (Yes, that's me!) Buy Hercules stuff at http://www.cafepress.com/hercules-390 |
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buttman wrote in
: On Mar 21, 6:08*pm, Dan wrote: On Mar 21, 5:42 pm, "Bob F." wrote: Everyone knows the gear can't come up while taxiing anyway, no matter wh at you do with the switches. You have got to be kidding...? Or else flying a fixed gear. Dan Mc Theres no way the gear can retract while the plane's weight is on the gear. Even if the squat switch were to fail, the gear retraction motor is not going to be powerful enough to bring the gear up from underneath you. Wow, an even bigger idiot than I thought. As soon as I saw someone post about trying the old gear up witch and rely on the squat, I thought of you. And you can get the gear up on the ground, fjukkwit. For one thing the nosewheel will happily retract and if you're taxiing the rolling of the mains will happilly allow the wheels to move., once they're over center you are on your belly. Bertie |
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Ron Natalie wrote in
: Bertie the Bunyip wrote: "Bob F." wrote in : Everyone knows the gear can't come up while taxiing anyway, no matter what you do with the switches. Though I knew some tit who used to pull the lever up at the start of the take off roll and rely on the prox switch on the gear to do the rest for him. Guess what? Prox switch, what is that . You raise the handle on my plane and the next sound you hear is the prop hitting the pavement. Even on planes with squat switches you want to make sure the switch is down before moving the aircraft. There's about three different "make sure the handle is down" before cranking. It's just a type of switch. I should have said squat switch. A lot of airplanes have a second switch in line that won't allow the gear to retract regardless of the handle position. others have a mechanical lock that restricts movement of the gear handle whilst on the ground. Bertie |
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On Mar 22, 10:20*am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
buttman wrote : On Mar 21, 6:08*pm, Dan wrote: On Mar 21, 5:42 pm, "Bob F." wrote: Everyone knows the gear can't come up while taxiing anyway, no matter wh at you do with the switches. You have got to be kidding...? Or else flying a fixed gear. Dan Mc Theres no way the gear can retract while the plane's weight is on the gear. Even if the squat switch were to fail, the gear retraction motor is not going to be powerful enough to bring the gear up from underneath you. Wow, an even bigger idiot than I thought. As soon as I saw someone post about trying the old gear up witch and rely on the squat, I thought of you. And you can get the gear up on the ground, fjukkwit. For one thing the nosewheel will happily retract and if you're taxiing the rolling of the mains will happilly allow the wheels to move., once they're over center you are on your belly. Bertie You sound like you speak from experience... |
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