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Old May 29th 09, 03:28 AM posted to rec.aviation.military,sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military.naval
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E-2D and Maritime Security
http://lexingtoninstitute.org/docs/857.pdf
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Old May 29th 09, 03:44 AM posted to rec.aviation.military,sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military.naval
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On May 28, 7:28 pm, Mike wrote:
E-2D and Maritime Securityhttp://lexingtoninstitute.org/docs/857.pdf


Navies of the world which have the ships to operate such aircraft:
One.

Pity the Brits don't get this.

-HJC
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Old May 29th 09, 05:36 AM posted to rec.aviation.military,sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military.naval
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On May 28, 10:44*pm, hcobb wrote:
On May 28, 7:28 pm, Mike wrote:

E-2D and Maritime Securityhttp://lexingtoninstitute.org/docs/857.pdf


Navies of the world which have the ships to operate such aircraft:
One.

Pity the Brits don't get this.

-HJC


Japan has used E-2s I believe.
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Old May 29th 09, 06:18 AM posted to rec.aviation.military,sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military.naval
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"David E. Powell" wrote in message
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On May 28, 10:44 pm, hcobb wrote:
On May 28, 7:28 pm, Mike wrote:

E-2D and Maritime Securityhttp://lexingtoninstitute.org/docs/857.pdf


Navies of the world which have the ships to operate such aircraft:
One.

Pity the Brits don't get this.

-HJC


Japan has used E-2s I believe.


The French fly them from a carrier. Taiwan flies them in a land-based mode.
Israel used to fly them.

Don H.


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Old May 29th 09, 08:14 AM posted to rec.aviation.military,sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military.naval
Alistair Gunn
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In sci.military.naval hcobb twisted the electrons to say:
On May 28, 7:28 pm, Mike wrote:
E-2D and Maritime Securityhttp://lexingtoninstitute.org/docs/857.pdf

Navies of the world which have the ships to operate such aircraft:
One.


Two ...

Pity the Brits don't get this.


Oh I think you find the RN gets this completely ... Hence why it's had
AEW / ASAC aircraft since 1982. It's just that the current government
would ordinarily prefer to spend the $$$ on moreschoolsandhospitals(TM)
and ATM wants to keep it's head down because the people are being
"nasty" to it!
--
These opinions might not even be mine ...
Let alone connected with my employer ...
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Old May 29th 09, 09:01 AM posted to rec.aviation.military,sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military.naval
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On 29 May, 03:44, hcobb wrote:
On May 28, 7:28 pm, Mike wrote:

E-2D and Maritime Securityhttp://lexingtoninstitute.org/docs/857.pdf


Navies of the world which have the ships to operate such aircraft:
One.

Pity the Brits don't get this.

-HJC


Er, except for a brief interlude (late 70s early 80s) the RN has had
AWACS since just after WW2

Guy
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Old May 29th 09, 11:15 AM posted to rec.aviation.military,sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military.naval
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"guy" wrote in message
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On 29 May, 03:44, hcobb wrote:
On May 28, 7:28 pm, Mike wrote:

E-2D and Maritime Securityhttp://lexingtoninstitute.org/docs/857.pdf


Navies of the world which have the ships to operate such aircraft:
One.

Pity the Brits don't get this.

-HJC


Er, except for a brief interlude (late 70s early 80s) the RN has had
AWACS since just after WW2

Guy


I seem to remember that in late 1944, or early
1945 the RAF were developing,
an AWACS type of system, so that
the bombers could go deep into Germany.


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Old May 29th 09, 11:26 AM posted to rec.aviation.military,sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military.naval
LIBERATOR[_3_]
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On May 28, 8:28*pm, Mike wrote:
E-2D and Maritime Securityhttp://lexingtoninstitute.org/docs/857.pdf


Amazing photo and profiling but isn't this all better done from a
satellite? The plane has a limited duration of being airborne.

Or is having a plane known with it all the disguise that they are
already using a satellite with it?

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Old May 29th 09, 12:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.military,sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military.naval
Keith Willshaw[_4_]
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"Robert Sveinson" wrote in message
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"guy" wrote in message
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On 29 May, 03:44, hcobb wrote:
On May 28, 7:28 pm, Mike wrote:

E-2D and Maritime Securityhttp://lexingtoninstitute.org/docs/857.pdf

Navies of the world which have the ships to operate such aircraft:
One.

Pity the Brits don't get this.

-HJC


Er, except for a brief interlude (late 70s early 80s) the RN has had
AWACS since just after WW2

Guy


I seem to remember that in late 1944, or early
1945 the RAF were developing,
an AWACS type of system, so that
the bombers could go deep into Germany.


Some testing was done with a modified Wellington but
it never entered service. The first AEW aircraft to enter
squadron service was the AEW Avenger. The RN used
the AEW Skyraider equipped with the APS-20 radar
which was in turn superseded by the Fairey Gannet.

The responsibility for AEW remained with the RN until the
retirement of the Fleet carriers and Gannet in the early 1970's

The first operational RAF AEW unit was 8 Squadron equipped
with Shackletons equipped with the now rather elderly APS-20
radars in 1972.

Keith


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Old May 29th 09, 02:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.military,sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military.naval
Geoffrey Sinclair
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"Keith Willshaw" wrote in message
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"Robert Sveinson" wrote in message
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I seem to remember that in late 1944, or early
1945 the RAF were developing,
an AWACS type of system, so that
the bombers could go deep into Germany.


Some testing was done with a modified Wellington but
it never entered service.


The outline is as follows,

The idea of Air Control of Interception was proposed by
Watson-Watt in August 1941, the idea being as a control
for fighters intercepting Fw200 over the Atlantic.

The Telecommunications Research Establishment modified
Wellington R1629 with a rotating Yagi dipole antenna, 9
inch PPI, high powered transmitter and an ASV II radar.
Trials in 1942 and 1943 were quite successful, the system
was dismantled in April 1943.

There is a 3 page article on the system by Lawrence Hayward in
the spring 2004 edition of Aviation World.

With the use of He111s flying over the North Sea at low level
to launch V-1s against the UK the ACI/AWACS was revived
as operation Vapour.

This time ASV VI was the radar, trials and some operational
sorties were done in January 1945. Sea returns provided the
usual low altitude range problem, at higher altitudes aircraft were
detected at 14 miles range. Just as the system was being put
into operation the Luftwaffe effectively ceased He111 V-1
operations. The only interceptions made were of allied
aircraft.

The plan was to convert the Wellingtons of 407 squadron
into airborne control, with the step after that to use B-24s
for round the clock coverage.

It was fun if you were in the Mosquito XXX, to stay with
the Wellington, you flew with flaps and undercarriage down,
at low altitude.

http://www.angelfire.com/trek/rcaf/exag0306.html

See The History of Air Intercept Radar and the British
Nightfighter by Ian White and Diver! Diver! Diver! by Brian
Cull and Bruce Lander

Geoffrey Sinclair
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