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Old December 20th 06, 09:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Paul kgyy
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Default WAAS upgrade info for Garmin 430

I called the shop today that installed my Garmin 430 and asked about
WAAS. They offered 2 approaches.
1. Get the upgrade. Cost is $1500 + $95 freight (!) + $100 to install
a different antenna. Terrain is an additional $500. Availability is
uncertain.

2. Replace the entire unit (2 years old). Antenna replacement is
still required, but terrain is only $250 extra on the new units - total
cost about $2200. New units are available now.

Living in the midwest, I'm ambivalent about the value of the terrain
info. That apparently resides on the second data card, so I assume
it's another annual fee to Jeppesen.

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Old December 20th 06, 09:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Stan Prevost
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Default WAAS upgrade info for Garmin 430


"Paul kgyy" wrote in message
oups.com...
2. Replace the entire unit (2 years old). Antenna replacement is
still required, but terrain is only $250 extra on the new units - total
cost about $2200. New units are available now.


Is that a swap-out with Garmin on the new unit, or can you keep the old one
and sell it on Ebay?



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Old December 20th 06, 10:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Mark Hansen
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Default WAAS upgrade info for Garmin 430

On 12/20/06 13:42, Stan Prevost wrote:
"Paul kgyy" wrote in message
oups.com...
2. Replace the entire unit (2 years old). Antenna replacement is
still required, but terrain is only $250 extra on the new units - total
cost about $2200. New units are available now.


Is that a swap-out with Garmin on the new unit, or can you keep the old one
and sell it on Ebay?


I guess you're hoping that the avionics shop will install a new GNS 430W
(valued at, what: $10k or so) for $2200 and you get to keep your existing
GNS 430?

That would be a sweet deal indeed! ;-)


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Old December 20th 06, 10:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Gig 601XL Builder
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Default WAAS upgrade info for Garmin 430


"Paul kgyy" wrote in message
oups.com...
I called the shop today that installed my Garmin 430 and asked about
WAAS. They offered 2 approaches.
1. Get the upgrade. Cost is $1500 + $95 freight (!) + $100 to install
a different antenna. Terrain is an additional $500. Availability is
uncertain.

2. Replace the entire unit (2 years old). Antenna replacement is
still required, but terrain is only $250 extra on the new units - total
cost about $2200. New units are available now.

Living in the midwest, I'm ambivalent about the value of the terrain
info. That apparently resides on the second data card, so I assume
it's another annual fee to Jeppesen.



Is $2200 with a trade-in of the older 430?


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Old December 20th 06, 11:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Paul kgyy
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Default WAAS upgrade info for Garmin 430




Is that a swap-out with Garmin on the new unit, or can you keep the old one
and sell it on Ebay?


Give the installer 2200 and sell the old one for 6K? Are you kidding?

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Old December 21st 06, 12:29 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Kevin Clarke
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Default WAAS upgrade info for Garmin 430

Is there any value to WAAS yet, beyond the "Gee Whiz" factor? Can I do
precision approaches with it yet?

KC

Paul kgyy wrote:
I called the shop today that installed my Garmin 430 and asked about
WAAS. They offered 2 approaches.
1. Get the upgrade. Cost is $1500 + $95 freight (!) + $100 to install
a different antenna. Terrain is an additional $500. Availability is
uncertain.

2. Replace the entire unit (2 years old). Antenna replacement is
still required, but terrain is only $250 extra on the new units - total
cost about $2200. New units are available now.

Living in the midwest, I'm ambivalent about the value of the terrain
info. That apparently resides on the second data card, so I assume
it's another annual fee to Jeppesen.

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Old December 21st 06, 12:43 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Stan Prevost
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Default WAAS upgrade info for Garmin 430


"Paul kgyy" wrote in message
ups.com...



Is that a swap-out with Garmin on the new unit, or can you keep the old
one
and sell it on Ebay?


Give the installer 2200 and sell the old one for 6K? Are you kidding?


No, but it seems that Garmin is. Sell a $10K unit with terrain for $2200?



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Old December 21st 06, 12:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Ron Natalie
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Default WAAS upgrade info for Garmin 430

Kevin Clarke wrote:
Is there any value to WAAS yet, beyond the "Gee Whiz" factor? Can I do
precision approaches with it yet?

Gives you a couple of features:

1. There are LPV approaches which have vertical guidance and DH's
a bit higher than ILS's (I think the lowest I've seen is 300').

2. Removes the condition to pick an alternate that has a non-GPS
approach you are equipped to fly.

3. The TSO mandates some nice features such as the autosequencing
of the course reversal and missed approach that the 430/530 was
previously missing.
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Old December 21st 06, 01:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Kevin Clarke
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Default WAAS upgrade info for Garmin 430

Ron Natalie wrote:
Kevin Clarke wrote:
Is there any value to WAAS yet, beyond the "Gee Whiz" factor? Can I do
precision approaches with it yet?

Gives you a couple of features:


Thanks Ron. Now you made me go look and learn something. My CFII never
told me about that. I found this web link which has the LNAV approaches
in the US.

http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/air_traffic/waas-lpv.pdf

The RNAV RWY 5 approach at Groton, CT, (GON) is below 300'.

KC


1. There are LPV approaches which have vertical guidance and DH's
a bit higher than ILS's (I think the lowest I've seen is 300').

2. Removes the condition to pick an alternate that has a non-GPS
approach you are equipped to fly.

3. The TSO mandates some nice features such as the autosequencing
of the course reversal and missed approach that the 430/530 was
previously missing.

  #10  
Old December 21st 06, 02:40 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Ron Natalie
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Default WAAS upgrade info for Garmin 430

Kevin Clarke wrote:
Ron Natalie wrote:
Kevin Clarke wrote:
Is there any value to WAAS yet, beyond the "Gee Whiz" factor? Can I
do precision approaches with it yet?

Gives you a couple of features:


Thanks Ron. Now you made me go look and learn something. My CFII never
told me about that. I found this web link which has the LNAV approaches
in the US.

http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/air_traffic/waas-lpv.pdf

The RNAV RWY 5 approach at Groton, CT, (GON) is below 300'.


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