Cessna 150 with STOL comments requested

"Dale" wrote in message
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"Vaughn Simon" wrote:

I don't have a handy POH for a 150

If you did you would see that for a short-field takeoff you should have
the flaps UP.

Fair enough. How do the takeoff performance numbers compare?

Vaughn

"Vaughn Simon" wrote in message
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: ".Blueskies." wrote in message
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: Hard surface runway you should be using no flaps for takeoff...
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: We are talking about short fields here. The short field technique for the
: 150 is the same regardless of runway surface. I don't have a handy POH for a
: 150, but the 152 POH states that you use 0 or 10 degrees of flaps for a "normal"
: takeoff, and 10 degrees for a short field takeoff. The only takeoff distance
: chart presented assumes short field technique.
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: For the record, at 3000 feet pressure altitude and standard conditions, a
: stock 152 needs at least 1600 feet to clear a 50 foot obstacle. You will be
: well over halfway down that strip before you can expect your wheels to break
: ground. Assuming the numbers for the 150 look about the same, I would not try
: the OPs 150 and 1350 foot strip with MY daughter in the right seat, and it is
: doubtful that I would even try it solo.
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: Landing looks better, as long as you touch down (with short field technique
: @54 KIAS) in the first half of the runway, you should be OK.
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: Vaughn
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1975 c-150 'owner manual'

TO distance - flaps retracted - hard surface

1600 gross 70 mph IAS @50'
sea level 2500'/50°F 5000'/51°F 7500'/32°F
zero wind 735/1385 910/1660 1115/1985 1360/2440 ground run/clear 50'

150flivver wrote:



A 150HP engine makes a stock 150 a spritely performer but
not sprite enough if you're overgross on a soft, high strip on a hot
day! A 150/150 will outperform an older 172 so I don't know what Newps
is talkin' about. VGs will help out a bit without the shock to the
wallet a full STOL kit will have.

A 150/150 will not outperform a light 172. You don't have the wing for
it, that's your main problem. When she wrecked she was giving dual.
She decided that they weren't going to make it over the barbed wire
fence. The student then stabbed the brakes. Right over on its top it
went. It was probably about 60 degrees when it happened. VG's will
help any wing, are any approved on the 150?

Montblack wrote:

("wise purchaser" wrote)

I hold the airplane in ground effect untill the very end of the runway to
clear a 4 feet high Barbed wire fence then start a SLOW climb. ( by the
way, after the barb wire fence is a 2000 foot wide flat pasture that is
owned by my neighbor; all I have to do is get over the fence and I am all
right plenty of open space to set down on!!)



I would ask the neighbor if it were alright to install (two) 30-ft sliding
gates.

Just put in a cattle guard, that way you won't have to screw with it and
you eliminate your obstacle, no gate required. But christ your talking
about only being 5 agl after 1300 feet. That's crappy performance.

If you are for real - which appears to be in doubt right now -
Lose the 150.
I wouldn't even fly my 172 off that strip in Summer.
Piper Cub? Maule? Husky? They would all be fun and safe off that strip.
Your plane will do it - most times - but for safety? lose it.
That's my advice

Tony
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Tony Roberts
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