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Old September 8th 07, 05:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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Default LSA Under US$50K

TAKE HOME AN LSA, FOR UNDER $50K
(http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#196078)
While the Light Sport Aircraft getting the most attention tend be
those like Flight Design CT and Cessna, which are selling well in
the $100,000 range, more models are coming online at lower costs.
The latest is the Sport Hornet
(http://www.sporthornet.com/index2.htm), a tandem fixed-wing
airplane with full three-axis control, for sale as a
Special-LSA at $49,995, reports LSA expert Dan Johnson
(http://www.bydanjohnson.com). "With a 100 hp, four-cylinder
Rotax, that's really quite a good deal," Johnson told AVweb on
Wednesday. Other lower-cost models include the EuroFox, available
with tricycle gear or as a taildragger for $59,950, and the Sky
Arrow, an all-composite tandem pusher that goes for $66,000.



http://www.sporthornet.com/specs.htm
Super Hornet

Unmatched in Performance and Value

Engine:
Manufacturer Rotax
Model 912 ULS
Horsepower 100

Propeller:
Number of Blades 3
Propeller Type IVO
Diameter 58 inch

Fuel:
Number of tanks 2 wing tanks
Fuel Capacity 18 Gallons

Oil:
Oil Tank Capacity 0.8 Gallons

Performance:
Maximum 120 knots/ 138 mph
Cruise 95 knots/ 109 mph

Stall Speed:
Flaps up power off 40 knots/ 46mph
Flaps Down 34 knots/ 39 mph

Take Off 300 ft
Landing 350 ft

Maximum Weight 1320 pounds
Standard Empty 630 pounds
Useful 690 pounds


Now! Ready-to-fly

Sport Pilot is finally here and the Super Hornet is ready for the
challenge. Certified by the FAA under the provisions of FAR
21.191 (i)(1) as an Experimental-Light Sport Aircraft (E-LSA), you
can pick up your Super Hornet at our factory in Ramona,
California, take flying lessons, if needed, and fly your Super
Hornet home. Don’t have the time? Not a problem! We can crate
your Super Hornet and ship it to your selected destination, with
complete instructions for an easy final assembly. Your Super
Hornet can be flying in only one weekend. Yes, this is truly a
ready-to-fly Sport Plane for only:

$49,995

Airframe: Fully constructed of corrosion resistant, aircraft
aluminum and covered with the FAA certified Poly Fiber process,
this airframe will last a lifetime. Easily maintained (and you
can legally do all maintenance) with well-known and understood
aircraft techniques. The robust landing gear is ideally suited
for training and/or off-airport operations. Tandem seating offers
the most elbow room available in sport aircraft, coupled with
excellent leg room, ease of entry and superb visibility.
Adjustable seats are standard. Large full view doors let you see
the world go by in complete comfort. Your Super Hornet is painted
in an easily maintained white base coat with a choice of six trim
designs.

Engine/Prop: The Super Hornet is powered by the world class Rotax
912 UL. This 80 hp, four-stroke engine, equipped with a three
bladed, Ivo propeller The 1,600 TBO, coupled with a fuel
consumption of between 3 and 4 gallons per hour (auto fuel or
avgas) means you can fly the Super Hornet for under $10 per hour
of out of pocket expense. With an 18-gallon fuel supply as
standard, the Super Hornet can fly for up to 6 hours and travel
500 miles without refueling.

Instruments: Your Super Hornet is fully equipped for day, VFR
flight. Standard instruments include an airspeed indicator,
sensitive altimeter, vertical speed indicator, Grand Rapids EIS
system,

Options: The following factory installed options add function,
fun and safety to your Super Hornet.

Ballistic Parachute System 100 hp 912
Kuntzelman Light Kit
Grand Rapids Sport Pak www.grtavionics.com
B.R.S. Parachute
Becker Radio/Transponder
PSI engineering Intercom

Higher Class Aviation, 2450 Montecito Road, Ramona, CA 92065
(760) 789-8607
-----------------------------------

The EuroFox:
http://www.eurofox-usa.com/
The EuroFox is a factory-built two-seat aircraft that has been
manufactured in Europe since 1990 with over 235 aircraft now
having been produced. The EuroFox is a modern design with
excellent performance and features -- built with the finest
workmanship and materials resulting in a completed aircraft of
superb quality. The EuroFox is an FAA-approved S-LSA aircraft that
is especially distinctive for having a quick-folding wing design
(only one-person, only 10 minutes!). With the EuroFox having an
attractively low price for an aircraft in this category, the
EuroFox represents the best value available among S-LSA aircraft!

EuroFox features and equipment . . .



two-seat (side-by-side), high wing, tricycle-gear aircraft
(taildragger-version now available)
quick-folding wings -- just a one-person, 10-minute job!
the EuroFox is easily trailerable!
precision-welded 4130 chromoly steel tube fuselage, aluminum
wings, with fuselage and wings covered with UV-protected PolyFiber
fabric for long-term durability
powered by the Rotax 912UL 80-hp four-stroke, four-cylinder engine
(912ULS 100-hp engine is optional)
heavy-duty five-point firewall engine mount
three-blade composite prop with spinner
acrylic front windshield
steerable nosewheel with heavy duty suspension
heavy duty composite main gear suspension
hydraulic disk brakes on the main wheels with parking brake
ram-air intake system for improved efficiency and power
special airbox design with carb heat system
stainless steel exhaust system
Vernier-type throttle control
cabin heater and effective dual fresh air vents
comfortable plush seats with durable upholstery and four-point
seat/shoulder belts
large luggage compartment
clear polycarbonate gull-wing doors equipped with gas-lift struts
and with doors quick-removable (for flying without doors!)
door locks and carpeted cockpit floor
large skylights
elevator trim and flaps
aerodynamic main wheel and nosewheel pants
dual landings lights
meticulous attention to details
large instrument panel (EuroFox panel photo)
complete flight and engine instrumentation is standard and
includes: airspeed indicator, 0-20,000' precision altimeter,
vertical speed indicator, compass, slip indicator, and Rotax
FlyDat digital engine monitoring system which provides for engine
rpm, oil temperature, oil pressure, water temperature, four EGT's,
and hour meter
options available the 100-hp Rotax 912ULS engine, two-color paint,
strobes, and BRS parachute recovery system (see our EuroFox
Pricing & Options web page)
the EuroFox is factory-built and test-flown and delivered
completely checked-out and ready to fly!

EuroFox specifications and performance . . .

wingspan 29'11.3", wing area 122.53 sq ft
aircraft length 18'6.5"
aircraft height 7'4.5"
cockpit width 44.1"
dimensions with wings folded: 7'10.75" max width, 70" height,
21'6" length, 7'6.5" maingear width
glide ratio 10:1 at 70 mph
cruise speed 110 mph (with 912UL engine at 75% power or 912ULS
engine at 60% power)
stall speed 40 mph (flaps down)
climb rate 980 fpm (with 912ULS engine)
take-off roll (at gross weight) 260' (with 912ULS engine)
empty weight 644 lbs.
maximum gross weight 1232 lbs.
Vne 143 mph
fuel capacity 22.5 gallons
range 600+ miles -- 5.7+ hours endurance capability


http://www.eurofox-usa.com/eurofoxpricing.htm

EuroFox with Rotax 912UL 80-hp engine and all standard
equipment..... $59,950.00
includes U.S. delivery (FOB Indiana) and U.S. aircraft
registration

standard features and equipment include: quick-folding wing
system, roomy cockpit, 3-blade FITI prop with spinner, wheel
pants, steerable nosewheel, heavy-duty suspension, large baggage
compartment, stainless steel exhaust system, acrylic windshield,
clear doors with locks, skylight, hydraulic disc brakes with
parking brake, cabin heater and vents, Vernier-control throttle,
one-color paint with various graphics choices, carpeted floor,
carb heat system, dual landing lights, plush seats with four-point
seat/shoulder belts, and deluxe instrument panel with large map
pocket

standard flight instrumentation includes: airspeed indicator,
precision altimeter, VSI, compass, and slip indicator

standard engine instrumentation includes: FlyDat digital engine
instrument (providing digital display of RPM, CHT, four-EGT's, oil
temperature, oil pressure, hourmeter), and a Rotax fuel pressure
gauge

installed options and upgrades...
upgrade to Rotax 912ULS 100-hp engine...... $2,650.00
XCOM radio/VOX-intercom system...... $1,690.00
Becker transponder-encoder package...... $2,560.00
AmeriKing ELT system...... $325.00
Skybright "Nightlight" wingtip strobe/LED position
lights...... $719.00
two-color paint schemes...... $1,500.00
ADI electronic attitude indicator with GPS feature......
$1,340.00
BRS 1350# LSA-approved ballistic recovery system......
$4,495.00

-----------------------------------------------------------

http://www.skyarrowusa.com/
650 Certified

General
The Sky Arrow 650 TCNS is a tandem seat aircraft designed and
manufactured in Italy by Iniziative Industriali Italiane (Meteor)
S.p.A., a company manufacturing gliders, airplanes and Remotely
Piloted Vehicles since 1947. This version of the Sky Arrow has
been designed as sport and recreational aircraft, as well as for
training, research and aerial surveillance. The Sky Arrow 650
TCNS, being almost entirely made of carbon fiber in epoxy resin,
features a strong composite structure and therefore has a very
high strength to weight ratio. It is a single engine, high wing,
T-tail and fixed tricycle landing gear aircraft.

Certification
The Sky Arrow 650 TCNS was type certified in March 2003 and is in
compliance with FAR 23. The engine is certified to FAR 33 and the
propeller to FAR 35. Noise has been tested in accordance with FAR
36, Appendix G, and ICAO Annex 16, Chapter 10. The Sky Arrow 650
TCNS is type certified for day and night VFR in the U.S.A. and
those countries that recognize Advisory Circular AC-23.11. They
are used for recreation, sport, training and aerial
reconnaissance. The aircraft, due to its tandem configuration, is
also usable for military initial training. For this reason
pneumatic gyroscopic instruments, with the relevant engine drive
and pump, are part of the standard configuration. Due to the
possibility to be used in night operations, navigation, strobe,
landing, cabin and map lights are installed, as well as an
additional alternator.

Fuselage
The fuselage is almost entirely made of carbon fiber sandwich in
an epoxy resin matrix. Kevlar is used in some areas, such as the
cabin, where added strength is requested for crash worthiness. The
two fuselage halves are bonded together along the vertical plane.
Internally, the fuselage includes six minor bulkheads and two main
ones. One of these bulkheads supports the main landing gear and
the engine. The aircraft may be controlled from either seat. The
front rudder pedals are adjustable. A baggage compartment is
located behind the back seat, and small bags can be stowed
underneath it. The fuel tank is located in the fuselage, behind
this seat. The one-piece, glider-style canopy provides exceptional
outside visibility. The engine and fuel tank attachments have been
statically tested in crash landing simulations up to 18 g's.

Wings
The airfoil is a Gottinga 398 modified for better handling at low
speeds. Each wing is attached to the fuselage with 3 bolts (two at
the root rib and one at the wing strut) secured by castle nuts and
easily removable safety pins. The wing and the control surfaces
are made of carbon fiber. The two wing spars are of "C" section.
Wing flaps are actuated electrically and can be positioned at 0,
10, 20 and 30 degrees. The ailerons are actuated via aluminum
control rods and bellcranks.

Landing Gear
The tricycle landing gear is fixed. The main landing gear leaf
springs are made of fiberglass roving. The nose gear strut is
steel and carbon fiber. It features a "donut" type shock absorber
and a shimmy damper. The nose gear is free castoring. Steering is
provided by a combination of hand-operated differential braking of
the main wheels (low speed) and rudder actuation (high speed).

Powerplant
The engine is a Rotax 912S, certified to FAR 33, with a maximum
power of 100 HP at 5,800 rpm. The engine is a horizontally
opposed, 4 cylinder, 4 stroke type. It features liquid cooled
cylinder heads and air cooled cylinders, dual ignition, dry sump
lubrication, dual carburetors and a propeller drive reduction gear
box with clutch. The engine features one internal and one external
alternator. The engine mount is made of aircraft steel tubing. The
propeller is 2 blade, fixed pitch, certified to FAR 35.

Empennage
The rudder is made of fiberglass sandwich with a termanto core. It
is actuated by dual cables and aluminum rod via a bellcrank. Both
the horizontal stabilizer and elevator are in carbon fiber
sandwich, in an epoxy resin matrix, with an electrical actuated
trim tab. Aluminum control rods actuate the elevator.

Electrical
Electric power is provided by a twelve-volt battery located in the
nose of the airplane and is supplied to the electrical system via
a bus. An external 40-amp alternator, driven by a belt connected
to the propeller shaft, provides power to the battery and the main
electrical bus. A second 18-amp internal alternator provides power
to the engine ignition system and also serves as a source of
emergency power in the event of a malfunction of the primary
alternator. Circuit protection is provided by circuit breakers
located on the instrument panel. The instrument panel is prepared
to accept various instruments in addition to the standard ones.


POWERPLANT:
Bombardier Rotax 912S - 100HP @5,800 RPM. Four cylinder, gasoline,
four stroke, aspirated, air/water cooled engine. TBO 1,500 hours.
Engine dry weight: 125.6 lbs.

Characteristics 650TCNS
Length 24.9 ft
Height 8.4 ft
Wing span 31.8 ft
Wing loading 9.8 lbs/sq.ft
Power loading 14.3 lbs/hp
Seats/arrangement 2-Tandem
Engine type Rotax 912 S
Engine power @ 5.800 RPM 100 Hp
Propeller 2-blade, fixed-pitch
Maneuvering load factors +3.8 g / -1.9 g
Standard empty weight (*) 877 lbs
Max. gross weight 1,433 lbs
Useful load 556 lbs
Fuel capacity 18 gals

Performance
(650 kg / 1,430 lbs gross weight) 650TCNS
Take off distance (ground roll) 780 ft
Take off distance over 50 ft obst. 1,345 ft
Maximum demonstrated crosswind component 15 kts
Landing distance (ground roll) 443 ft
Landing distance over 50 ft obst. 705 ft
Rate of climb, sea level 700 fpm
Cruise speed (@ 75 % power, s.l.) 90 kts
Fuel consumption (endurance @ 75% power, sea level): 4,3 gal/hr
Service ceiling 13,500 ft

Limiting & Recommended Airspeeds:
VX (best angle of climb) 57 kts
VY (best rate of climb) 65 kts
VA (design maneuvering) 90 kts
VFE (max flap extended) 67 kts
VNE (never exceed) 132 kts
VNO (max structural cruising) 104 kts
VSO (stall full flaps, power off) 40 kts
VS1 (stall, clean) 46 kts
VR (rotation) 45 kts
Cruise speed (@ 75% power, msl) 90 kts
Endurance: (@ 75 % power, no res.) 4h 15min
Max range: (@ 75% power, no res.) 380 nm

Basic avionic configurations:
The following is included in the basic aircraft configuration:

Standard:

Bendix King KX-125A NAV/COMM unit
Garmin GTX-327 mode C transponder

Documentation:
The following documentation is provided with the aircraft:

Flight Manual
Maintenance Manual
Parts Catalog
Operator's manuals of the installed equipment (engine, propeller,
avionics, etc.)


http://www.skyarrowusa.com/documents...ed2007_001.pdf
Sky Arrow 650 Series
Price List USA.


1
Sky Arrow 650 TCNS (FAR 23 Certified)
A Sky Arrow 650 Series Standard Configuration 650 TCNS
(VFR night)
100 hp Rotax 912 S2 (4 stroke, 4 cylinder) ü
Wooden/composite propeller. Two blade, fixed pitch ü
Additional 40 Amp alternator ü
Magnetic compass ü
Rate of climb indicator ü
Airspeed indicator ü
Altimeter ü
Attitude indicator (pneumatic) ü
Directional gyro (pneumatic) ü
Turn and bank indicator (electric) ü
Pitch trim position indicator ü
OAT indicator ü
Digital chronometer ü
Flight hour meter ü
Tachometer ü
Fuel pressure indicator ü
Oil pressure indicator ü
Oil temperature indicator ü
Water temperature indicator ü
Fuel quantity indicator ü
Vacuum gauge ü
Volt/Ampere indicator ü
NAV/COM Bendix King KX125
ü
XPDR BendixKing
KT76A
w. altitude encoder ü
Intercom ü
Canopy, tinted ü
Surface: weather resistant white paint ü
Registration markings ü
Stall warning system, acoustic ü
Floor, nonskid
ü
Baggage container behind the rear seat ü
Fuel funnel with filter ü
Cabin heating and ventilation system ü
Authorized US distributor:
Pacific Aerosystem, Inc. (PAI)
Ph.: (800) 8441441
www.SkyArrowUsa.com
Email:

Iniziative Industriali Italiane S.p.A.
Ph.: +39.06.90085545
Fax: +39.06.90080328
www.SkyArrow.com
Email:

Sky Arrow 650 Series
Price List
U U. ..S S. ..A A. ..
$138,000 US
2
A Sky Arrow 650 series standard configuration 650 TCNS
(VFR night)
Airframe/Exterior/Interior
Seat belts & shoulder harness, five point, dual ü
Canopy release system ü
Rear windows, removable ü
Baggage container underneath the rear seat ü
First aid kit ü
Fire extinguisher ü
ELT ü
Landing light ü
Navigation lights ü
Strobe lights ü
Instrument lights ü
Map light ü
PRICE US$ $138,000
ü Standard equipment
B Optional Avionics
Price
“Standard Premium” package. Includes:
• GPS/NAV/COM Garmin GNS430,
with inst. and antennas (replaces NAV/COM
Bendix King KX125)
• XPDR Garmin GTX327,
with inst. and antenna (replaces XPDR Bendix
King KT76A)
$5,000.00
Qty. two, Sigtronics S58
headsets with hot microphone and carry bag $415.00
CDI/VOR/GS indicator Garmin GI106A
(Requires “Standard Premium” package) $1,767.00
C Other optional accessories
Price
Main wheel fairings $885.00
Nose gear mud guard $395.00
Waterproof front fuselage and canopy cover $605.00
Waterproof engine cover $200.00
Place of delivery Terms of delivery Effective date:
San Diego, CA
or
Atlanta, GA
Four months after
signing of
purchase agreement
June 1, 2007
Prices are subject to change without notice.
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Old September 8th 07, 05:47 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Newps
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Default LSA Under US$50K

People aren't looking to fly a lawn chair with wings and for christs
sake don't put blurry pics on the website. Looks like a 10 year old did it.



Larry Dighera wrote:

TAKE HOME AN LSA, FOR UNDER $50K
(http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#196078)
While the Light Sport Aircraft getting the most attention tend be
those like Flight Design CT and Cessna, which are selling well in
the $100,000 range, more models are coming online at lower costs.
The latest is the Sport Hornet
(http://www.sporthornet.com/index2.htm), a tandem fixed-wing
airplane with full three-axis control, for sale as a
Special-LSA at $49,995, reports LSA expert Dan Johnson
(http://www.bydanjohnson.com). "With a 100 hp, four-cylinder
Rotax, that's really quite a good deal," Johnson told AVweb on
Wednesday. Other lower-cost models include the EuroFox, available
with tricycle gear or as a taildragger for $59,950, and the Sky
Arrow, an all-composite tandem pusher that goes for $66,000.

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Old September 8th 07, 06:05 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default LSA Under US$50K - crashes

Larry Dighera wrote:
TAKE HOME AN LSA, FOR UNDER $50K
(http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#196078)
While the Light Sport Aircraft getting the most attention tend be
those like Flight Design CT and Cessna, which are selling well in
the $100,000 range, more models are coming online at lower costs.
The latest is the Sport Hornet
(http://www.sporthornet.com/index2.htm), a tandem fixed-wing
airplane with full three-axis control, for sale as a
Special-LSA at $49,995, reports LSA expert Dan Johnson
(http://www.bydanjohnson.com). "With a 100 hp, four-cylinder
Rotax, that's really quite a good deal," Johnson told AVweb on
Wednesday. Other lower-cost models include the EuroFox, available
with tricycle gear or as a taildragger for $59,950, and the Sky
Arrow, an all-composite tandem pusher that goes for $66,000.


Student, Instructor Injured In CA Sport Hornet Accident

http://aero-news.net/index.cfm?Conte...-d1ddf8ffa6c1&

--
Jim Pennino

Remove .spam.sux to reply.
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Old September 8th 07, 07:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Vaughn Simon
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Default LSA Under US$50K


"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
...
TAKE HOME AN LSA, FOR UNDER $50K ... for sale as a
Special-LSA at $49,995,


A $49,995 LSA does not cost *LESS THAN* $50,000. For all practical
purposes, $49,995 *IS* $50,000. By the time you pay taxes, registration,
transportation etc, etc, etc, you will be paying well north of $50,000 even if
you can resist adding options.

This type of appeal assumes that the potential customer is an idiot. As a
potential customer, I find that insulting.

Vaughn


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Old September 8th 07, 09:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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Default LSA Under US$50K

On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 18:49:31 GMT, "Vaughn Simon"
wrote in
:


"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
.. .
TAKE HOME AN LSA, FOR UNDER $50K ... for sale as a
Special-LSA at $49,995,


A $49,995 LSA does not cost *LESS THAN* $50,000. For all practical
purposes, $49,995 *IS* $50,000. By the time you pay taxes, registration,
transportation etc, etc, etc, you will be paying well north of $50,000 even if
you can resist adding options.


I believe the point of the AvWeb story was that, while LSA aircraft
were expected to be affordable (inexpensive), most seem to priced
around $100k; compared to a used C-152 that's not very reasonably
priced. The Sport Hornet seems to have set a low-price benchmark in
the LSA market.


This type of appeal assumes that the potential customer is an idiot. As a
potential customer, I find that insulting.

Vaughn


Well, you've got to appreciate you're dealing with journalistic
license here. :-)
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Old September 9th 07, 01:40 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Morgans[_2_]
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jimp@ wrote .

Student, Instructor Injured In CA Sport Hornet Accident

http://aero-news.net/index.cfm?Conte...-d1ddf8ffa6c1&


It will be interesting to see if this engine failure is fuel related, or
engine mechanical.
--
Jim in NC


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Old September 9th 07, 02:13 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Judah
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Default LSA Under US$50K

"Vaughn Simon" wrote in
:

This type of appeal assumes that the potential customer is an
idiot. As a potential customer, I find that insulting.


The fact that you don't already know that "under $50k" means $49,999.99 does
more to imply that you were born yesterday than the pricetag itself...
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Old September 9th 07, 02:17 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Vaughn Simon
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Default LSA Under US$50K


"Judah" wrote in message
. ..
The fact that you don't already know that "under $50k" means $49,999.99 does
more to imply that you were born yesterday than the pricetag itself...


Whatever...


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Old September 9th 07, 03:13 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
James Sleeman
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Default LSA Under US$50K

On Sep 9, 8:12 am, Larry Dighera wrote:
I believe the point of the AvWeb story was that, while LSA aircraft
were expected to be affordable (inexpensive), most seem to priced
around $100k; compared to a used C-152 that's not very reasonably
priced.


You are comparing apples to if not quite oranges, at least very old
slowly decaying apples.

Buying a brand new LSA with a modern design is more expensive than
buying a used C152 that was designed 30 years ago, itself a
modernization of an aircraft design which is now FIFTY years old (1957
= first flight of C150, infact in 3 days it will be exactly 50 years,
September 12).

Either compare it to buying a brand new C152 (ie the new Cessna LSA)
or a 30 year old LSA (ie something not to dissimilar to a 30 year old
C152 actually) and it might make more sense.

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Old September 9th 07, 04:16 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Tater
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Default LSA Under US$50K

On Sep 8, 11:15 am, Larry Dighera wrote:
TAKE HOME AN LSA, FOR UNDER $50K


pfft! milhollands double eagle goes for 12k, if you spend lots to have
someone build it for you.

yeah, flying lawnchair, but not an overpriced one

 




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