Boeing admits 787 strategy flawed

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Gig 601XL Builder writes:

Let's keep one thing in mind. Much of the reason for outsourcing for
Boeing is to make foreign governments happy when it comes time to buy
the plane.

Yup. That's the overwhelming reason. It works almost as well as a
bribe, and it's legal. Unfortunately, it produces an inferior
product.





You are an idiot.


You have no idea of whnce you speak.


Bertie

John Ewing wrote:
"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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The reality is that top managers are born, not made, and they are in
limited
supply. No management school can change that. They're are many
heavily educated but talent-free managers in the business world, and
that's the real
problem.

I agree but would take a slightly less absolute view on "the born, not
made".

Certainly some people simply because of certain personality traits
will naturally evolve into excellent managers, even with little
formal education and zero management training - the "born" category.

As you state: some people, despite extensive education and training,
will never make the grade. It is not that they're a failure in life;
they just need to be employed in a job where management skills are
not a pre-requisite.

Most people lie in between these extremes and have potential for
improvement. A few will undoubtedly become top managers.

John

Excuse me for butting in but John, do you realize that you are discussing
management theory with a guy that can't hold a job?

"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in message
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John Ewing wrote:
"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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The reality is that top managers are born, not made, and they are in
limited
supply. No management school can change that. They're are many
heavily educated but talent-free managers in the business world, and
that's the real
problem.

I agree but would take a slightly less absolute view on "the born, not
made".

Certainly some people simply because of certain personality traits
will naturally evolve into excellent managers, even with little
formal education and zero management training - the "born" category.

As you state: some people, despite extensive education and training,
will never make the grade. It is not that they're a failure in life;
they just need to be employed in a job where management skills are
not a pre-requisite.

Most people lie in between these extremes and have potential for
improvement. A few will undoubtedly become top managers.

John

Excuse me for butting in but John, do you realize that you are discussing
management theory with a guy that can't hold a job?

I have absolutely no problem with that, and if I did, then I'm the one with
the problem!
Refer to your Management Theory notes - the chapter is headed:
Discrimination

John

Mxsmanic wrote in
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The reality is that top managers are born, not made, and they are in
limited supply.


What, finding it difficult to find good manegerial staff for your booming
business? Those 3X5 cards you leave in the Supermarche bringing in so much
you feel you need some staff?


Bertie

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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The reality is that top managers are born, not made, and they are in
limited
supply. No management school can change that. They're are many heavily
educated but talent-free managers in the business world, and that's the
real
problem.


And the above is the considered view of a talented Captain of Industry?
--

JohnT

Gig 601XL Builder writes:

Excuse me for butting in but John, do you realize that you are discussing
management theory with a guy that can't hold a job?

Do you realize how your post looks next to his?

JohnT writes:

And the above is the considered view of a talented Captain of Industry?

It depends on which captain you ask, but many of them express similar
viewpoints. Which one did you have in mind?

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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JohnT writes:

And the above is the considered view of a talented Captain of Industry?

It depends on which captain you ask, but many of them express similar
viewpoints. Which one did you have in mind?


I forgot that you don't know the meaning of the word "irony"
--

JohnT

Mxsmanic wrote in
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JohnT writes:

And the above is the considered view of a talented Captain of Industry?

It depends on which captain you ask, but many of them express similar
viewpoints. Which one did you have in mind?




Wow, out on a limb with this one fjukkwit.



Why you don't have your own column in USA today is beyond me.


Bertie

On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 21:13:21 +0100, Mxsmanic
wrote:

Gig 601XL Builder writes:

Let's keep one thing in mind. Much of the reason for outsourcing for Boeing
is to make foreign governments happy when it comes time to buy the plane.

Yup. That's the overwhelming reason. It works almost as well as a bribe, and
it's legal. Unfortunately, it produces an inferior product.


Why?

Big John