Common instruments on small aircraft

Mxsmanic wrote in
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A Lieberma writes:

Get out of your game and on the net. There is a source to download
from if you look real carefully.

I've found some terminal charts but nothing with a wide selection of
sectionals. Navigation data is big business and some things seem to
be jealously guarded.

Keep looking, they are out there. And for free that is!

Allen

Mxsmanic wrote in
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A Lieberma writes:

The above verifies based on my own experiences and looking back on
one of my own videos from KJAN to KMBO

Preflight 7 minutes
Startup procedures 1:05 minutes
Ground clearance 10 seconds.
Taxi 3:00 minutes
Runup 1:30 minutes
Clearance for take off 2 seconds (number one for takeoff)

So from opening the door of the plane to take off takes on average 12
1/2 minutes for me.

Where's the flight plan?

What makes you think a flight plan was or is needed?

Typical of you to go off tangent to your own question.

For what it's worth. VFR, I don't file a flight plan, get in my plane
just like my car. The above was a VFR flight.

IFR, takes 5 minutes on simple flights to 10 minutes to multi leg flights
to get everything in order thanks to computerization of planning. This
includes getting my approach plates in order, filing the plan with the
FAA.

No different then planning a trip in a car. After all, you don't get on
the road without checking maps for routes desired. Samething in the air,
I select the routes I desire.

Sheeze, so you don't file flight plans in your game world, what's the
difference? Or would that be like a REAL simulator.

Allen

"Ron Wanttaja" wrote in message
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Take a look, then, at a photo of the panel of *my* airplane:

Awh, 'ell, that's quite a bit more than my previous aircraft (a
gyrocopter)... Its airspeed indicator was a disc in a plastic tube that rose
up with increased air speed -- similar to this
(http://www.hallwindmeter.com/images/short_bracket.jpg)... No altimeter...
I'm thinking that there *might* have been some sort of engine temperature
gauge, but I'm not sure... There might have been some sort of very small
tachometer, but it was small enough to not be really useful... Come to think
of it, I'm not even sure it had a compass... Most flights were done at 500
ft or less, so you follow roads, rivers, or anything else that might be
interesting... grin

A Lieberma writes:

Keep looking, they are out there. And for free that is!

I discover new stuff every few days.

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Judah writes:

What makes you say this is makeshift?

Because it is. It takes a lot of time and attention during phases of
flight where time and attention are at a premium.

If it were that easy, there wouldn't be two navaid receivers in so
many aircraft.

Then you would get your Instrument Rating and fly a plane that had the
minimum required equipment. You might also carry some backup instruments like
a handheld GPS and handheld NAV/COM.

I'd want a GPS and radios in the plane, but I might well carry
handhelds just to be safe (along with a lot of other emergency stuff).

There are several sites where you can download sectionals at no cost. It was
discussed in an earlier thread. You can google it.

I'll look around.

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Judah writes:

I see. So you couldn't imagine stopping for gas, traffic lights, traffic
jams, detours, and stretch/bio breaks on a 600 mile cross country trip?

You can't imagine holding patterns, weather diversions, and
less-than-straight routing?

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A Lieberma writes:

What makes you think a flight plan was or is needed?

I never said it was needed. I just asked where it was. A flight plan
is always a good idea.

For what it's worth. VFR, I don't file a flight plan, get in my plane
just like my car. The above was a VFR flight.

Where and when will they look for you if you crash?

IFR, takes 5 minutes on simple flights to 10 minutes to multi leg flights
to get everything in order thanks to computerization of planning. This
includes getting my approach plates in order, filing the plan with the
FAA.

Then it should be easy to file one for VFR flights.

Sheeze, so you don't file flight plans in your game world ...

Actually I do. Even some VFR flight plans.

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Judah writes:

But I would consider a factor of 2-3 times faster over the ground as
significantly greater.

Not compared to jets.

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Recently, Mxsmanic posted:

Judah writes:

There are many pleasurable things to do using aircraft, especially
if you enjoy flying.

Yes. But aircraft for basic transportation are far less practical,
except for the kind of long-distance transportation provided by
commercial airlines.

Well, I doubt that many of us would think of using an airplane to go
grocery shopping, if that's what you're getting at. I find the "break
even" point for trips with my wife to be a roughly 600 n/mi. radius. For
those distances, we can beat both the time and cost of flying
commercially, and while it would cost less to drive, there is no
comparison when it comes to the level of exhaustion on arrival.

Neil

On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 14:40:35 GMT, Judah wrote:

Mxsmanic wrote in
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RK Henry writes:

Which parts? Why not?

Beach, mountains, movies, museum, etc. Most of these places don't
have a runway out in front, so they require a car rather than a plane.


Actually, you are incorrect. MANY airports have museums either on the field
or within walking distance. There are also airports within mountain terrain
(and of course, you don't actually have to land on a mountain to appreciate
it from the sky). And there are even several airports with Beaches on the
field or within easy reach of the airport by walking, taxi, or public
transportation.

Since I always say, "Name 3" here are 3 examples:

KTEB - Aviation Hall of Fame
26N - Walk to Ocean City Beach and Boardwalk
KACY - Short cab ride to Atlantic City Casinos (AIY is closer (walkable to
Casinos), but I believe they closed it recently)


GKT- The Tennessee Air Museum, Sevierville, TN. The museum is on the
airport. (www.tnairmuseum.com) Of course other local destinations
include Pigeon Forge, Gatlinburg, and The Great Smoky Mountain
National Park, but you'll need ground transportation for those. I live
close enough that driving is feasible, but flying is a nicer way to
get to the museum and I don't have to buck highway traffic.

CRE- Crescent Beach, North Myrtle Beach, SC. The beach is a couple of
blocks from the airport. About a mile. Of course MYR is 13 NM
southwest at Myrtle Beach, but I haven't actually been there. The last
time I was in Myrtle Beach, MYR was a military base. MYR is also close
to the shore. (Current pireps on CRE & MYR please.)

W45- Luray, VA. Luray Caverns. (www.luraycaverns.com) Free courtesy
transportation to the caverns. After the tour of the caverns, which
includes a recital of the Great Stalacpipe Organ, there's an antique
auto museum with several interesting cars I'd never seen before.

FFA- First Flight at Kill Devil Hills, NC. The Wright Brothers museum
is said to be within walking distance. This destination is still on my
to-do list. (Current pireps on this one too please.) www.nps.gov/wrbr

CGX - Meigs Field. Oh no! It's gone! Destroyed in a midnight terrorist
attack by Osama bin Daley. And it was on my to-do list if I ever
visited Chicago and its museums. Right next to downtown. Well, scratch
that one. I guess scratch Chicago too, since any city that would
destroy such an asset can't be worth bothering with. Just goes to show
what happens when you let opportunities slip by.

RK Henry