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The EAA should allow us to use our folding bikes at Airventure
Well then, what about the volunteers, who ride motorcycles all over
the grounds? I've not heard one instance of them running into an airplane. Why would a pilot that brings his folding bike with him be any less able to avoid hitting a plane? There's more than enough room to maneuver a bike at that event. If not, the volunteers wouldn't have room to roam at will on their motorcycles. And I'm not talking about letting the entire general populace ride bikes, just giving the ones who fly in a show plane. Exceptions can be made. One year at Oshkosh, I noticed the Taylor flying car, sans wings, driving all over the grounds anywhere he wanted to go with it. It was really neat to see, and I admired it everytime it drove by. Not once did I worry about what he might hit with it. I was glad to see it there, and able to roam the grounds at will. If you don't want a bike, or motorized one around your plane, then write the EAA and tell them no more volunteers on motorcycles on the flight line, or you aren't coming. See what they in return. On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 13:04:37 +0000, Scott wrote: On the other hand, if you're a pilot or careful person with a bike on a ramp with low activity, that isn't a problem, but that doesn't exactly describe Oshkosh, does it? KB I was wondering when the last time he was to Oshkosh (maybe 1956 or so???) where the flightline wasn't crowded with pedestrians. I've been there pretty much every year since 1975 and it always seems too crowded to try and weave a bike through the crowd (assuming you ride the bike on the pavement and not row to row sneaking between planes, which I agree, would not thrill me when my plane is parked there). I don't think we're all sheep following the leader at all...as Kyle says who wants a bike (especially motorized) running around their airplane??? Scott |
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The EAA should allow us to use our folding bikes at Airventure
On Jun 21, 11:29 am, Sliker wrote:
The trams are not usually available when you want one, and are a waste of time waiting for them. I grab one when I see one going in the right direction, but it's not that often. Or they are full. I'd put a motor on my bike, so I could get around. And the flight line isn't that packed with pedestrians, there's more than enough room for a folding bike. Now I can see why the rules never get changed, as soon as it's tried, everyone defends anything Poberenzy and crowd want to issue as law. I've been to a lot of local fly-ins that don't have so many rules and guess what? it's not a problem with a bike. It's actually been done succesfully! without incident. Can you imagine? Probably hard for the dot every i, cross every t, follow every rule to the letter crowd. Like sheep. I wonder how with attitudes like that, we ever get new homebuilt designs built. Your a moron. |
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The EAA should allow us to use our folding bikes at Airventure
On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 14:10:33 -0700 (PDT), Lou
wrote: Your a moron. Or anyone else that disagrees with your views |
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The EAA should allow us to use our folding bikes at Airventure
Sliker wrote:
I wonder how with attitudes like that, we ever get new homebuilt designs built. I wonder if you personally attack everyone who dares to disagree with your point of view. I commend you on your maturity and objectivity. |
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The EAA should allow us to use our folding bikes at Airventure
On Jun 21, 6:58 pm, Dave S wrote:
Sliker wrote: I wonder how with attitudes like that, we ever get new homebuilt designs built. I wonder if you personally attack everyone who dares to disagree with your point of view. I commend you on your maturity and objectivity. First of all, you didn't disagree with my point of view, I disagreed with yours. Second, since I did disagree, you try to paint a picture of blind following's as if I don't have my own opinion. Third, you want to talk about maturity, think before you talk. Moron. Lou |
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The EAA should allow us to use our folding bikes at Airventure
"Lou" wrote in message ... On Jun 21, 6:58 pm, Dave S wrote: Sliker wrote: I wonder how with attitudes like that, we ever get new homebuilt designs built. I wonder if you personally attack everyone who dares to disagree with your point of view. I commend you on your maturity and objectivity. First of all, you didn't disagree with my point of view, I disagreed with yours. Second, since I did disagree, you try to paint a picture of blind following's as if I don't have my own opinion. Third, you want to talk about maturity, think before you talk. Moron. Lou How do I spell moron? It starts with L, has an O in the middle, and ends with YOU... |
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The EAA should allow us to use our folding bikes at Airventure
On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 18:58:56 -0500, Dave S
wrote: Sliker wrote: I wonder how with attitudes like that, we ever get new homebuilt designs built. I wonder if you personally attack everyone who dares to disagree with your point of view. I commend you on your maturity and objectivity. Go ahead, walk your arse off on the Airventure fly-in. I've been going to that thing since '73, And I could see so much more of it if it weren't for all the walking involved. That thing is spread out far and wide. Many times, things I want to see are so far, I just don't have the energy to go see them, especially towards the end of the day. A person that flys into the show, in a homebuilt, parks and then you face the fact that you have no ground transportation, the hotels are full, and try getting a rental car. I'ved used the busses, but they aren't ideal, especially if they aren't going where your lodging is. So you are on your feet from the time you land and park, until you leave. And they won't let us use a folding bike. Stubborn asses Go ahead and defend that archaic rule. Then one day when Airventure is no more, we'll all look back and wonder why it died. The list will be long, and some of these unneccesary rules will be at the top of the list. Don't think it will happen? That's what they thought back in the golden age of air racing too, and a little over 10 years after it started, it was finished. And not just due to the war, it was about done when that started. People lost interest. And when that's happening, we don't need any unneccesary rules to give attendees more reasons not to attend the event. |
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The EAA should allow us to use our folding bikes at Airventure
Sliker wrote:
The trams are not usually available when you want one, and are a waste of time waiting for them. I grab one when I see one going in the right direction, but it's not that often. Or they are full. I'd put a motor on my bike, so I could get around. And the flight line isn't that packed with pedestrians, there's more than enough room for a folding bike. Now I can see why the rules never get changed, as soon as it's tried, everyone defends anything Poberenzy and crowd want to issue as law. I've been to a lot of local fly-ins that don't have so many rules and guess what? it's not a problem with a bike. It's actually been done succesfully! without incident. Can you imagine? Probably hard for the dot every i, cross every t, follow every rule to the letter crowd. Like sheep. I wonder how with attitudes like that, we ever get new homebuilt designs built. So now you want not only your bike you want a motorized bike? What next, are you going to ask to let you drive your car around the grounds? I'm sure EAA will miss you as a member. Which is worse a sheep or a whiner? |
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The EAA should allow us to use our folding bikes at Airventure
On Jun 23, 10:07*am, Gig 601Xl Builder
wrote: Sliker wrote: The trams are not usually available when you want one, and are a waste of time waiting for them. I grab one when I see one going in the right direction, but it's not that often. Or they are full. I'd put a motor on my bike, so I could get around. And the flight line isn't that packed with pedestrians, there's more than enough room for a folding bike. Now I can see why the rules never get changed, as soon as it's tried, everyone defends anything Poberenzy and crowd want to issue as law. I've been to a lot of local fly-ins that don't have so many rules and guess what? it's not a problem with a bike. It's actually been done succesfully! without incident. Can you imagine? Probably hard for the dot every i, cross every t, follow every rule to the letter crowd. Like sheep. I wonder how with attitudes like that, we ever get new homebuilt designs built. So now you want not only your bike you want a motorized bike? What next, are you going to ask to let you drive your car around the grounds? I'm sure EAA will miss you as a member. Which is worse a sheep or a whiner? Whiner by a wide margin. Can't you just see 50,000 people trying to navigate around the crowds on motorized scooters and bikes? Can't you just imagine the line of lawyers handing out cards for liability lawsuits? If you are physically unable to walk, then an exception is in order otherwise, get off you lazy ass and walk. |
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The EAA should allow us to use our folding bikes at Airventure
Hey Gig, hows the plane coming?
Lou |
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