Your free AvGas fillup at Dodge Center MN (TOB) July Sunday 31, AM

"George Patterson" wrote in message
news:an8Ie.17431$QX2.16930@trndny01...
Matt Barrow wrote:

Gee, George...what do you make of the SUBJECT, especially after reading
the
OP?

As I recall, the OP stated that he felt the fillup on his dime was
accidental.
Seems to me that he went out of his way to avoid accusing anyone of
stealing.

And as one person pointed out: "Accidental?". Who'd a thunk someone
accidentally put 150 gallons of gas in his plane by accident?

Sounds like something your mother would say to get you to confess (i.e.,
"Just tell the truth and you won't get in trouble").

Sorry, but putting such a ludicrous post in a world-wide newsgroup...well,
I'm quite skeptical.

As the old adage: "Don't **** down my back and tell me it's raining".

"Montblack" wrote in message
...
("George Patterson" wrote)
Oh it's great! Once you get past the used part.


Hehehe.


Hmmm....well broken in, huh?

Matt

(First time was the charm...26 years and she hasn't killed me YET!)

abripl wrote:

Hi,

Just returned from Oshkosh home to Pierre SD. I filled up at Dodge
Center MN this AM and not being familiar with the self serve gas
fillup, I did not hang up the pump handle properly. Somebody after me
continued pumping another $150 on my credit card ($200 instead of about
$50). My experimental only holds 35 gal bone dry. If it was you that
accidentally filled up that morning after me and don't see
corresponding "HARTLAND FUEL PRODUCTS - DODGE CENTER" credit card
charges on your card please contact me. Paul at 605-224-0660

Now that's been a few days, has the charge amount POSTED to your credit
card account? Is it an even number like $200 or is it a more realistic
number like $197.34 ?

"John" wrote in message ...
abripl wrote:

Hi,

Just returned from Oshkosh home to Pierre SD. I filled up at Dodge
Center MN this AM and not being familiar with the self serve gas
fillup, I did not hang up the pump handle properly. Somebody after me
continued pumping another $150 on my credit card ($200 instead of about
$50). My experimental only holds 35 gal bone dry. If it was you that
accidentally filled up that morning after me and don't see
corresponding "HARTLAND FUEL PRODUCTS - DODGE CENTER" credit card
charges on your card please contact me. Paul at 605-224-0660

Now that's been a few days, has the charge amount POSTED to your credit
card account? Is it an even number like $200 or is it a more realistic
number like $197.34 ?

Question is: How did he know, as soon as he did (a matter of hours), that
someone pumped gas on his card?

Now you're coming off as the whiney one. Birds of a feather with the
OP?

Well, we may both be whining, but we're certainly seeing the issue from
different ends of the telescope.

I'm whining? I adhere to contracts and absorb my losses and don't
advertise
them AND I'M WHINING?

No, I didn't say you were whining -- you're bitching. There's a difference.

It's me and the *other* poster you were referring to that are whining. Keep
up, will ya?

:-)

A adult would say what happened and ask "What should I do? Should I call
the
CC company? Talk to the FBO?"

Jay, where are your great "conservative values"? :~)

You're not following this thread well, Matt. I'm not advocating that the OP
do ANYTHING but suck it up and pay the bill. I *am* saying that if he calls
the CC company, and gets the charge reversed, they WILL charge back the
completely innocent FBO. That's the way they do things, and the FBO will be
totally screwed.

I, on the other hand, am speaking from experience with dishonest card
holders who dispute legitimate charges, and are backed up by their
criminally complicit credit card companies.

Geez, listen to yourself. What does that tangent have to do with his case.

Because I know what I'm talking about. If he reports this as a fraudulent
charge, the perpetrator will NOT be the one hurt. Rather, the FBO will be
charged back, and harmed for doing nothing but offering gasoline service to
his customers. THAT is a travesty, but that is the way CC companies do
business.

And the FBO will be completely powerless to dispute the chargeback.

Bottom line: CC companies NEVER lose.

They not supposed to lose, they're third parties to the transaction.

If they're that bad, why not stop accepting CC's?

I have already thrown American Express out of the hotel, but that was pretty
easy, since they are such a marginal card. I would happily throw the others
out in a heartbeat, if I could do so without committing financial suicide.

Unfortunately, our revenue is 10 to 1 credit/debit cards versus cash, so
they've got me -- and millions of honest vendors like me -- over a
barbed-wire barrel...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Matt Barrow wrote:

"John" wrote in message ...
abripl wrote:

Hi,

Just returned from Oshkosh home to Pierre SD. I filled up at Dodge
Center MN this AM and not being familiar with the self serve gas
fillup, I did not hang up the pump handle properly. Somebody after me
continued pumping another $150 on my credit card ($200 instead of about
$50). My experimental only holds 35 gal bone dry. If it was you that
accidentally filled up that morning after me and don't see
corresponding "HARTLAND FUEL PRODUCTS - DODGE CENTER" credit card
charges on your card please contact me. Paul at 605-224-0660

Now that's been a few days, has the charge amount POSTED to your credit
card account? Is it an even number like $200 or is it a more realistic
number like $197.34 ?

Question is: How did he know, as soon as he did (a matter of hours), that
someone pumped gas on his card?

As Ted wrote in another post, the OP probably checked his account online or
even via telephone. MBNA credit cards (such as AOPA credit card) even show
authorizations in real time so it would show online immediately after the
transaction. Some transactions (like hotel rooms, rental cars, and gas
purchases) authorize a higher amount off the bat then will eventually be
posted, so that's why I asked my questions. You only pay what actually POSTS,
which might vary from what can be authorized. So it is possible the OP wasn't
actually charged anything higher than what he expected at the time of purchase.

What no one has broached here is how to CYA on future automagic gas purchases.

Do these pumps issue a printed receipt?

Is there some test you can run to be sure it's stopped charging you? (Such
as trying to pump again, and getting prompted for the CCard?)

Can you get your credit card programmed to have a transaction dollar limit?

--
A host is a host from coast to
& no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX
Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433
is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433

"John" wrote in message ...


Matt Barrow wrote:

Just returned from Oshkosh home to Pierre SD. I filled up at Dodge
Center MN this AM and not being familiar with the self serve gas
fillup, I did not hang up the pump handle properly. Somebody after
me
continued pumping another $150 on my credit card ($200 instead of
about
$50). My experimental only holds 35 gal bone dry. If it was you that
accidentally filled up that morning after me and don't see
corresponding "HARTLAND FUEL PRODUCTS - DODGE CENTER" credit card
charges on your card please contact me. Paul at 605-224-0660

Now that's been a few days, has the charge amount POSTED to your
credit
card account? Is it an even number like $200 or is it a more realistic
number like $197.34 ?

Question is: How did he know, as soon as he did (a matter of hours),
that
someone pumped gas on his card?

As Ted wrote in another post, the OP probably checked his account online
or
even via telephone. MBNA credit cards (such as AOPA credit card) even
show
authorizations in real time so it would show online immediately after the
transaction. Some transactions (like hotel rooms, rental cars, and gas
purchases) authorize a higher amount off the bat then will eventually be
posted, so that's why I asked my questions. You only pay what actually
POSTS,
which might vary from what can be authorized. So it is possible the OP
wasn't
actually charged anything higher than what he expected at the time of
purchase.

That'd work. So are you saying the $200 is the AUTHORIZATION amount, not the
TRANSACTION amount? I've seen delays on those of up to a day or two. I
suspect that an FBO that has a full time connection would have better timing
on the data than one whose system has to do a modem dialup and then batch
transactions at end of day/overnight.

Matt Barrow wrote:

Jay, where are your great "conservative values"? :~)

I sure am glad we have an enforcer here to keep everyone ideologically
in line.

"David Lesher" wrote in message
...
What no one has broached here is how to CYA on future automagic gas
purchases.

Do these pumps issue a printed receipt?

Yes.

Is there some test you can run to be sure it's stopped charging you? (Such
as trying to pump again, and getting prompted for the CCard?)

Yes. Look for your receipt.

The funny thing is, whenever I pump from one of these self-serve pumps,
almost every time there's the previous customer's receipt dangling from the
printer. I always take my receipt, but apparently I'm one of the few, the
proud, the record keepers.

Can you get your credit card programmed to have a transaction dollar
limit?

IMHO, you'd have to have a card used only for buying gas for that to work.
However much gas you're buying, it's likely you use the card for any number
of other purchases that exceed the cost of the gas. This is true whether
you're buying gas for a Cub or a Citation.

Pete