Bush AWOL Story - New theory comes to light

Even the liberal media has gotten bored with the Demmirats AWOL lies and
dropped it. Now the Liberal media whores are trying to prop up the lying
Scumbag Clarke & his sham book. That will fizzle out soon too just like
Paul O'Neials book did a few months back.

In article ,
Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:

by James Ridgeway
A New Theory for Bush's Low, Low Profile in the Alabama Guard
March 24 - 30, 2004 Mondo Washington this week:

Here's a new twist to the George W. Bush AWOL mystery, in which almost
no one remembers him fulfilling his duties with the Alabama National
Guard. According to an investigation by the Spokane, Washington,
Spokesman-Review, Bush may have been involuntarily removed from being
a pilot due to little-known Human Reliability Regulations. These were
rules to screen out military personnel for mental, physical, and
emotional fitness before letting them handle nuclear weapons and
delivery systems. The regulations affected thousands of pilots and
were used to suspend two Washington State pilots on suspicion of drug
use, although in the end both men received honorable discharges.
snip

The government's reaction to questions about the human reliability
regs merits attention. The White House gave no comment to a
Spokesman-Review reporter, referring questions to the Defense
Department. The National Guard Bureau, now run by a Bush pick from
Texas, said it was under orders not to discuss the story. The bureau's
chief historian also told the Spokane paper he was under orders not to
discuss the topic. The freedom of information officer at the bureau
said her people stopped taking requests on Bush's military service
last month and now refer all questions regarding it to the Pentagon.

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0412/mondo2.php


No -- it is a much simpler answer. Since AL ANG was transitioning from
RF-84Fs to RF-4s, they would, naturally, place their most senior pilots
(Capt's, Maj's, Lt col's, etc) ahead of a lowly short timer Lt (he had
only a short remaining duty obligation) transferring in from Texas.

As I understand it, the RF-4 checkout program was several months long.
The AL ANG simply didn't want to use their resources on him.

In article ,
Republican Double Standard wrote:

Please. 20 years ago a bunch of criminals set up their own foreign
policy group outside the government and how much jail time did they do?

About the same amount of time a bunch of criminals who discussed
assassinating US Congressmen did.

--
cirby at cfl.rr.com

Remember: Objects in rearview mirror may be hallucinations.
Slam on brakes accordingly.

On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 11:39:58 -0700, Laura Bush murdered her boy friend
wrote:

by James Ridgeway
A New Theory for Bush's Low, Low Profile in the Alabama Guard
March 24 - 30, 2004 Mondo Washington this week:

http://www.spokesmanreview.com/break...e=200431401040
http://www.spokesmanreview.com/break...e=200431402242

Fairly interesting reading about Bush and what was going on in the
guard back then...

"Buzzer" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 11:39:58 -0700, Laura Bush murdered her boy friend
wrote:

by James Ridgeway
A New Theory for Bush's Low, Low Profile in the Alabama Guard
March 24 - 30, 2004 Mondo Washington this week:


http://www.spokesmanreview.com/break...e=200431401040

http://www.spokesmanreview.com/break...e=200431402242

Fairly interesting reading about Bush and what was going on in the
guard back then...

The story is a lie, the Texas ANG was conventional weapons only.

"David Hartung" wrote in message
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"BUFDRVR" wrote in message
...
...and if he had, it would be in his records (which have already been
released), clearly and unequivocally.

Since it is not, it's hogwash.

Why would an ANG unit, in the old Air Defense Command, have a SIOP
comitment?

I think the storys hogwash from that agle.

The Deuce had the capability to carry a nuclear tipped missile (AIM 27, I
believe), and if President Bush's Unit was tasked with this weapon, then
the
President would have had to be on PRP. Personally, I believe that AIM 27s
had long since been withdrawn from service.

AIM-26A. The conventionally armed AIM-26B was manufactured by the Swedes as
the Rb-27, which is where you might have gotten the 27 from. From what I
have read, the last nuclear versions left operational service in 1971. Given
that Bush's unit was transitioning to an aircrew training role at the time,
it would have been highly unlikely for them to have had any nuclear rounds.

Brooks

"Kevin Brooks" wrote in message
...

"David Hartung" wrote in message
...

"BUFDRVR" wrote in message
...
...and if he had, it would be in his records (which have already been
released), clearly and unequivocally.

Since it is not, it's hogwash.

Why would an ANG unit, in the old Air Defense Command, have a SIOP
comitment?

I think the storys hogwash from that agle.

The Deuce had the capability to carry a nuclear tipped missile (AIM 27,
I
believe), and if President Bush's Unit was tasked with this weapon, then
the
President would have had to be on PRP. Personally, I believe that AIM
27s
had long since been withdrawn from service.

AIM-26A. The conventionally armed AIM-26B was manufactured by the Swedes
as
the Rb-27, which is where you might have gotten the 27 from. From what I
have read, the last nuclear versions left operational service in 1971.
Given
that Bush's unit was transitioning to an aircrew training role at the
time,
it would have been highly unlikely for them to have had any nuclear
rounds.

The ANG didn't get to store nukes even if they were nuke qualified. To get
to nuke qualified required a considerable amount of additional effort,
including a security clearance required to even be on the flightline.

"Orval Fairbairn" wrote in message
news
In article ,
Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:

by James Ridgeway
A New Theory for Bush's Low, Low Profile in the Alabama Guard
March 24 - 30, 2004 Mondo Washington this week:

Here's a new twist to the George W. Bush AWOL mystery, in which almost
no one remembers him fulfilling his duties with the Alabama National
Guard. According to an investigation by the Spokane, Washington,
Spokesman-Review, Bush may have been involuntarily removed from being
a pilot due to little-known Human Reliability Regulations. These were
rules to screen out military personnel for mental, physical, and
emotional fitness before letting them handle nuclear weapons and
delivery systems. The regulations affected thousands of pilots and
were used to suspend two Washington State pilots on suspicion of drug
use, although in the end both men received honorable discharges.
snip

The government's reaction to questions about the human reliability
regs merits attention. The White House gave no comment to a
Spokesman-Review reporter, referring questions to the Defense
Department. The National Guard Bureau, now run by a Bush pick from
Texas, said it was under orders not to discuss the story. The bureau's
chief historian also told the Spokane paper he was under orders not to
discuss the topic. The freedom of information officer at the bureau
said her people stopped taking requests on Bush's military service
last month and now refer all questions regarding it to the Pentagon.

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0412/mondo2.php


No -- it is a much simpler answer. Since AL ANG was transitioning from
RF-84Fs to RF-4s, they would, naturally, place their most senior pilots
(Capt's, Maj's, Lt col's, etc) ahead of a lowly short timer Lt (he had
only a short remaining duty obligation) transferring in from Texas.

As I understand it, the RF-4 checkout program was several months long.
The AL ANG simply didn't want to use their resources on him.

Actually, he was only performing split training assemblies with them (or
more accurately, "equivalent training"); his request to transfer to another
unit had been turned down. His own unit had just become an operational
conversion/training unit (first for the F-102, then for both the F-102 and
F-101, and then for the F-101 exclusively for a number of years), and given
the number of higher-hour pilots then leaving the active component, one can
understand why they were not chomping at the bit to retain the flying
services of then 1LT Bush.

Kind of funny that some folks are still trying to make that dog hunt--this
was a non-issue four years ago, and it remains a non-issue today. Maybe we
will next hear where the esteemed Mr. Clark now recollects the *truth*
behind Bush's service record (well, that is as soon as Clark can determine
exactly what he wants *that* particular "truth" to look like, based upon his
evident skills at fabrication).

Brooks

"Buzzer" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 11:39:58 -0700, Laura Bush murdered her boy friend
wrote:

by James Ridgeway
A New Theory for Bush's Low, Low Profile in the Alabama Guard
March 24 - 30, 2004 Mondo Washington this week:


http://www.spokesmanreview.com/break...e=200431401040

http://www.spokesmanreview.com/break...e=200431402242

Fairly interesting reading about Bush and what was going on in the
guard back then...

Non-starter. How could they use PRP against him when (a) the only nuclear
round the F-102 could carry was phased out of service during the
*preceeding* year, and (b) his unit was by then a *training* unit no longer
tasked with alert duty? I'll side with Ed on this one--another example of
desperate journalists who are clueles about the military trying to
manufacture something.

Brooks

After an exhausting session with Victoria's Secret Police, Orval
Fairbairn confessed the following:

No -- it is a much simpler answer. Since AL ANG was transitioning from
RF-84Fs to RF-4s, they would, naturally, place their most senior pilots
(Capt's, Maj's, Lt col's, etc) ahead of a lowly short timer Lt (he had
only a short remaining duty obligation) transferring in from Texas.

The pedant in me must point out, GWB did not "transfer" from the TX
ANG to the AL ANG. He merely got permission to drill in AL while
retaining his TX ANG affiliation for reporting purposes. He would have
ZERO chance of flying the RF-4 regardless of rank.

The most likely scenario was that GWB put in a little (we're talking
VERY little) "VFR face time," but literally didn't do anything but
walk around unsupervised, drink coffee, have mock dog-fights with his
right hand shooting the watch on his left wrist while telling, "There
I was..." stories.

Having said that, you are correct that a guy with very little
obligation left would NOT normally check out in the next airplane,
doing so adds another two or three years to your service obligation.

As I understand it, the RF-4 checkout program was several months long.
The AL ANG simply didn't want to use their resources on him.

Back then the B (as in Basic) course for Fighter/Attack/Recce pilots
was six months. The Tx (Transition) course for guys coming from
similar missions would run approximately three months...that's if you
attended RTU fulltime (back then that would have been with the 363d
TRW at Shaw AFB). Local checkouts, part-time would take longer.

But the proper conclusion is not that the AL ANG didn't want to use
their resources (RTU slots) on GWB, but rather GWB had ZERO reason to
expect/anticipate flying the RF-4. It's not applicable in his case.

Juvat