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I just finished writing out paychecks... My employees are a mix of
more skilled and lesser skilled folks... The higher skills are paid more obvious averaging a $100 a week more in gross pay... One my more skilled employees has a husband with MS (is on expensive drugs) and both of them continue to work... A lesser skilled employee receives Medicaid and food stamp assistance for herself and her child... The bottom line is that I just did the payroll and after tax witholding and despite the higher gross income, my more skilled employee took home exactly $10 more than the employee on public assistance... And besides monthly assistance (money taken from her co-worker) the person on welfare will receive an income tax credit with a check from the US gov't at the end of the year... Am I the only person who sees the system as being broken? denny |
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In article .com,
"Denny" wrote: Am I the only person who sees the system as being broken? Nope. -- Bob Noel Looking for a sig the lawyers will hate |
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The bottom line is that I just did the payroll and after tax witholding
and despite the higher gross income, my more skilled employee took home exactly $10 more than the employee on public assistance... And besides monthly assistance (money taken from her co-worker) the person on welfare will receive an income tax credit with a check from the US gov't at the end of the year... Am I the only person who sees the system as being broken? No, you're not. I've been telling everyone who listen this for years. I am in the middle of paying quarterly taxes for our corporation, and am so disgusted with how much of our income vanishes that I can hardly breathe. These taxes include: - 5% of every penny we collect goes to the state, right off the top - 7% of every penny we collect goes to the county - Quarterly "Workforce Development" (AKA: Unemployment) Tax to Iowa - Quarterly Federal Unemployment Tax to D.C. - State income tax to Iowa These don't include the monthly taxes: - Federal payroll deduction - Federal Medicare - Federal Social Security - Property tax to Iowa City ALL of this money just vanishes. We don't even get our snow plowed, because the road between our two buildings is considered a "private" road (yet the city banned parking on it), and I haven't seen a street sweeper out front since last spring. Then you read about something like your employee's situation, and you just want to cry. All that money is being sucked from the person who worked hard, went to school, and found themselves a skilled position -- just so it can be spoon-fed to the person who didn't. Meanwhile, I can't give my employees a raise -- because all of our damned money is going to the GOVERNMENT. It's ridiculous, it's criminal, and it's GOT to stop. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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On 20 Oct 2006 07:08:07 -0700, "Denny" wrote:
I just finished writing out paychecks... My employees are a mix of more skilled and lesser skilled folks... The higher skills are paid more obvious averaging a $100 a week more in gross pay... One my more skilled employees has a husband with MS (is on expensive drugs) and both of them continue to work... A lesser skilled employee receives Medicaid and food stamp assistance for herself and her child... The bottom line is that I just did the payroll and after tax witholding and despite the higher gross income, my more skilled employee took home exactly $10 more than the employee on public assistance... And besides monthly assistance (money taken from her co-worker) the person on welfare will receive an income tax credit with a check from the US gov't at the end of the year... Am I the only person who sees the system as being broken? One possible conclusion is that you don't pay much. You can't use that as evidence that there's something wrong with the rest of the world. Low pay, no medical insurance, are these commonplace in your industry? What's your employee turnover? Are employees frequently moving on to something better? In that case you can think of your establishment as a halfway house to getting off of welfare. RK Henry |
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Meanwhile... people like those in our state's Red Capitol of Madison can't
believe that we let the more talented and skillful employee earn that extra $10 and would prefer that we give it to the less skillful employee because he "needs" it more. They would REALLY prefer that we pay the less skilled employee MORE than the skilled employee. But what they REALLY REALLY want is that we just send THEM all our money because then they can create more programs to help the less skilled. Which, if these programs ever succeeded, would lead to their own demise, so instead they spend the money on administration and bureaucracy (read self preservation and self promotion) Jim |
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Denny wrote:
Am I the only person who sees the system as being broken? Well of course the system is broken and you have pointed out exactly why. Things will not get better unless some serious reform is enacted. A flat tax, or a national sales tax would be an excellent start. |
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Jay Honeck wrote:
ALL of this money just vanishes. We don't even get our snow plowed, because the road between our two buildings is considered a "private" road (yet the city banned parking on it), and I haven't seen a street sweeper out front since last spring. It doesn't vanish, here's where it goes... after various state and federal agencies (that exist soley for the purpose of wealth re-distribution and nothing else) skim the cream off the top to pay for their salaries, benefits and union dues, the remaining money is handed out to people who have not earned in order to by their vote. That's the American way. |
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Well of course the system is broken and you have pointed
out exactly why. Things will not get better unless some serious reform is enacted. A flat tax, or a national sales tax would be an excellent start. The government, by making employers do all their dirty work, has done an excellent job of fleecing their own people, and keeping it a secret. As long as the vast majority of citizens are completely unaware of the magnitude of their taxation (and, believe me, they are), nothing will change. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
ps.com... Am I the only person who sees the system as being broken? No, you're not. I've been telling everyone who listen this for years. I am in the middle of paying quarterly taxes for our corporation, and am so disgusted with how much of our income vanishes that I can hardly breathe. These taxes include: - 5% of every penny we collect goes to the state, right off the top - 7% of every penny we collect goes to the county - Quarterly "Workforce Development" (AKA: Unemployment) Tax to Iowa - Quarterly Federal Unemployment Tax to D.C. - State income tax to Iowa These don't include the monthly taxes: - Federal payroll deduction - Federal Medicare - Federal Social Security - Property tax to Iowa City ALL of this money just vanishes. We don't even get our snow plowed, because the road between our two buildings is considered a "private" road (yet the city banned parking on it), and I haven't seen a street sweeper out front since last spring. Then you read about something like your employee's situation, and you just want to cry. All that money is being sucked from the person who worked hard, went to school, and found themselves a skilled position -- just so it can be spoon-fed to the person who didn't. Meanwhile, I can't give my employees a raise -- because all of our damned money is going to the GOVERNMENT. It's ridiculous, it's criminal, and it's GOT to stop. Hey, Jay!! Give this a read; long, almost 30 pages, but well worth it if anyone thinks the Repubs are going to change any of this, ever. http://www.theobjectivestandard.com/...nservatism.asp |
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"ktbr" wrote in message ... Denny wrote: Am I the only person who sees the system as being broken? Well of course the system is broken and you have pointed out exactly why. Things will not get better unless some serious reform is enacted. A flat tax, or a national sales tax would be an excellent start. It won't do doodly squat! |
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