STAR to nearby airport

Teacherjh wrote:

I always file "NO SIDS OR STARS" in the Remarks.

Don't they just give you the SID or STAR anyway, just spell it out for you?
They want to vector you far away, they vector you far away./

You do not have to accept the clearance.

"Teacherjh" wrote in message
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Don't they just give you the SID or STAR anyway, just spell it out
for you?


Yup.

"EDR" wrote in message
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I am not a jet jockey. I fly a slow spam can. If I am given a SID or
STAR I am going to be flying miles out of my way, well below traffic
that the procedures are designed to separate.


Arrival/departure routes often vary with altitude. If a route applies to
your slow spam can it's going to be issued without regard to what you've put
in remarks. Putting "NO SIDS OR STARS" in remarks means you won't be issued
a SID or STAR by name, it'll just be issued in full. All you've done is
crowd the frequency.