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Mike Ash writes:

All of this has to happen before the poor *******s up in the air run out
of fuel and die.

Incapacitation of the pilots does not drain fuel from the tanks.

Can even this much be done, much less the actual
talking-through-the-landing part? I'm doubtful myself. If anyone with
airline logistics experience would like to weigh in, I'd love to hear
about the practicality of simply finding the people and equipment from
someone who knows.

It seems to be pretty easy to find S&R, fire equipment, and military
interception on short notice; why would it be hard to find an instructor?

Are you really that stupid?

Do you have a staffed, 24 hour Flight Instructor Department next to the
local Fire Department in France? Do they drive emergency vehicles? Slide
down poles?

You're a hopeless twit.

On Feb 28, 7:35*am, Mxsmanic wrote:
"Darkwing" theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com writes:
Bull****. Not even the G1000 in MSX is even close to complete.

I'm not sure what MSX is. *In MSFS, G1000 simulations vary in accuracy with
the source. *The Reality XP simulations of Garmin 430 and 530 units are
complete and accurate, at least. *(I don't use a G1000 and I have no interest
in doing so.)

How do you know that if you haven't used a G1000?

Cheers

Varactor writes:

How do you know that if you haven't used a G1000?

By reading the descriptions of the simulations.

writes:

However said frequency is hardly appropriate for spontaneous flight
instruction and the people in the ATC facility are generally nowhere
near where any pilots are.

That is easily remedied by putting an experienced instructor pilot on
frequency.

In the case of smaller aircraft, non-pilots (and pilots) have occasionally
been assisted by air traffic controllers who had piloting experience.

Maxwell writes:

Do you have a staffed, 24 hour Flight Instructor Department next to the
local Fire Department in France? Do they drive emergency vehicles? Slide
down poles?

ATC has telephones.

writes:

Having seen the reactions people who have actually been trained to
respond in pressure situations, I can assure you that it is true.

I have also seen these reactions, and they do not match your assertion.

How many realistic sims down to the switch position level for any given
random aircraft do you thing exist in the world given they cost millions
of dollars?

Quite a few ... and you only need one.

-b- writes:

It's so easy, any monkey can do it. The only humans who are functionally
incapable of performing these simple tasks are pilots themselves, because their
intelligence is so impaired they cannot even realize they are the least capable
of doing their own job . . .

It's unwise to lump all pilots together. There are pilots who are too stupid
to handle the complexity of a large airliner, of course, but they are a
minority. Flying an airliner isn't sufficiently different from flying a small
airplane that someone too stupid to handle the former would be likely to be
competent in the latter.

Robert M. Gary writes:

I don't find that whether the trees look like lumps of green or have
leaves on them makes one bit of difference to a real simulator.

That's not the important part. The important part is that everything in the
cockpit must look as it does in real life, since much of the training (in the
case of airline pilots, for example) is intended to reinforce procedures that
are intimately connected to the ergonomy of the flight deck. It wouldn't do
to train pilots for engine failures on take-off using simulator cockpits that
have controls in positions different from those of the real thing--it would
defeat the entire purpose of the training, in fact. So these aspects are very
important.

What is outside the window, in contrast, is usually not important in these
types of simulations, although some things, such as airport surfaces, must be
accurately simulated.

Mxsmanic wrote:
writes:

However said frequency is hardly appropriate for spontaneous flight
instruction and the people in the ATC facility are generally nowhere
near where any pilots are.

That is easily remedied by putting an experienced instructor pilot on
frequency.

Point totally missed.

It would be highly unlikely that there would be an experienced instructor
pilot within 50 miles of an ATC facility nor do ATC facilities keep
a list of phone numbers of experienced instructor pilots, much less a list
sorted by various airliner types.

In the case of smaller aircraft, non-pilots (and pilots) have occasionally
been assisted by air traffic controllers who had piloting experience.

Smaller aircraft aren't airliners; you are in a hole and trying to get
out by changing the subject.



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Mxsmanic wrote:
Maxwell writes:

Do you have a staffed, 24 hour Flight Instructor Department next to the
local Fire Department in France? Do they drive emergency vehicles? Slide
down poles?

ATC has telephones.

True, but what they don't have is a list of qualified airline pilots
and their phone numbers.


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