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History Channel Dogfights - Kamikazes (Season 2 Premiere)



 
 
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Old July 19th 07, 05:06 PM posted to sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval
Tex Houston
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Default History Channel Dogfights - Kamikazes (Season 2 Premiere)


"Steve Hix" wrote in message
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Too bad they didn't interview Phillip Rasmussen before he passed away in
2005, who managed to get in the air with a P-36 and account for one
Zero. He was in something of a hurry, still wearing his pajamas at the
time.


The pajama wearing is shown in a display at the museum in Dayton.

Tex

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Old July 19th 07, 08:15 PM posted to sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval
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Default History Channel Dogfights - Kamikazes (Season 2 Premiere)

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"Tex Houston" wrote:

"Steve Hix" wrote in message
...

Too bad they didn't interview Phillip Rasmussen before he passed away in
2005, who managed to get in the air with a P-36 and account for one
Zero. He was in something of a hurry, still wearing his pajamas at the
time.


The pajama wearing is shown in a display at the museum in Dayton.

Tex


Neat. :}
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Old July 20th 07, 04:09 AM posted to sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval
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Default History Channel Dogfights - Kamikazes (Season 2 Premiere)

On Jul 18, 2:52 am, Walt wrote:
On Jul 17, 4:42?am, Gordon wrote:





On Jul 16, 11:58 pm, "Ray O'Hara" wrote:


"Walt" wrote in message


ups.com...


On Jul 16, 4:28?pm, "David E. Powell"
wrote:
Really well done.... worth checking out. From the look at the battle
of the USS Laffey (And US air cover of the day, tactics, the ship
herself, etc.) to the stuff on the Okha program to the look at a
German ramming squadron in the last days of the war in Europe, really
well done stuff.


The only thing that I take issue with is that they limit themselves to
incidents where they can interview the particpants. When they did the
segment on Jay Zeamer, they used an audio interview done sometime in
the past. But they dredged up the co-pilot. It would seem to
preclude them from doing segments say, on Bob Johnson, Richard Bong,
Adolf Galland, Douglas Bader, and on and on and on......


But the show generally has been very good.


Walt


i don't like how they can mislead with facts. they'll say how many RPM the
guns can fire but then never say how much ammo the plane carried.
stuff like that. now with CGI they are getting away from the 'films is
films' but recently a military channel show on the B-17 at various times
showed B-24s, B-25s while extolling the fortress and then while talking
about the tail-gun of the 17 had a close up of a lancaster 4-gun rear
turret.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I'm surprised that, while talking about how much punishment the B-17
could take, they didn't show that guy crashing against the round-down
on the carrier.- Hide quoted text -


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A B-17?

Walt


My point there is that they seem to almost randomly insert some
footage in completely inappropriate places.

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Old July 20th 07, 05:02 AM posted to sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval
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Default History Channel Dogfights - Kamikazes (Season 2 Premiere)

On Jul 19, 11:09?pm, Gordon wrote:
My point there is that they seem to almost randomly insert some
footage in completely inappropriate places.- Hide quoted text -


"They" is any producer in a hurry; it's not a History Channel policy.
"Dogfights" is trying pretty hard to get it straight--they didn't have
to put Shamrock Bay markings on those FM-2's last week.
OTOH there was that wowee-graphics sea war doc a year or so ago
talking about the British Navy and showing the Italian Fleet footage.
That cues up the off button and the "reinforcements" montage from
"Duck Soup": Tarzan's ape army, tree monkeys and porposes racing to
help Fredonia.

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Old July 21st 07, 05:30 PM posted to sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval
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Default History Channel Dogfights - Kamikazes (Season 2 Premiere)


"Gordon" wrote ...
On Jul 16, 11:58 pm, "Ray O'Hara" wrote:
"Walt" wrote in message....

On Jul 16, 4:28?pm, "David E. Powell"
wrote:
Really well done.... worth checking out. From the look at the battle
of the USS Laffey (And US air cover of the day, tactics, the ship
herself, etc.) to the stuff on the Okha program to the look at a
German ramming squadron in the last days of the war in Europe, really
well done stuff.


The only thing that I take issue with is that they limit themselves to
incidents where they can interview the particpants. When they did the
segment on Jay Zeamer, they used an audio interview done sometime in
the past. But they dredged up the co-pilot. It would seem to
preclude them from doing segments say, on Bob Johnson, Richard Bong,
Adolf Galland, Douglas Bader, and on and on and on......


But the show generally has been very good.


Walt


i don't like how they can mislead with facts. they'll say how many RPM
the
guns can fire but then never say how much ammo the plane carried.
stuff like that. now with CGI they are getting away from the 'films is
films' but recently a military channel show on the B-17 at various times
showed B-24s, B-25s while extolling the fortress and then while talking
about the tail-gun of the 17 had a close up of a lancaster 4-gun rear
turret.- Hide quoted text -


I'm surprised that, while talking about how much punishment the B-17
could take, they didn't show that guy crashing against the round-down
on the carrier.


Was it my imagination, but during one of the scenes from a/the show on
ramming tactics by Luftwaffe Me109s against USAAF B-17s daylight bombing,
didn't a Me109 flash by a Lancaster on its way toward colliding with a
yellow-tailed B-17?

TMO


 




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