Stol/lsa Features

Hi

I'm conducting a survey for my aeronautics course and I was hoping you all could help me out.

I'm focusing on smaller single reciprocating, nonturbine engine aircrafts and I wanted to know what are the most important features/expectations when considering a STOL and/or Light Sport aircraft? Whether you are looking to buy, build, or just fly.

Any and all opinions are appreciated. Thanks

aerojones wrote:
Hi

I'm conducting a survey for my aeronautics course and I was hoping you
all could help me out.

I'm focusing on smaller single reciprocating, nonturbine engine
aircrafts and I wanted to know what are the most important
features/expectations when considering a STOL and/or Light Sport
aircraft? Whether you are looking to buy, build, or just fly.

I think you need to limit your survey more.
What a bush pilot wants in a STOL is a lot
different than what a SLSA pilot wants which
is different than what an ultralight pilot
wants. Focus on one of these groups.

I fly an SLSA and the most important thing
for me is an economical cruise as close to
120 knots as possible, along with comfort
and reliability.

Originally Posted by Jim Stewart[_2_]

aerojones wrote:
Hi

I'm conducting a survey for my aeronautics course and I was hoping you
all could help me out.

I'm focusing on smaller single reciprocating, nonturbine engine
aircrafts and I wanted to know what are the most important
features/expectations when considering a STOL and/or Light Sport
aircraft? Whether you are looking to buy, build, or just fly.

I think you need to limit your survey more.
What a bush pilot wants in a STOL is a lot
different than what a SLSA pilot wants which
is different than what an ultralight pilot
wants. Focus on one of these groups.

I fly an SLSA and the most important thing
for me is an economical cruise as close to
120 knots as possible, along with comfort
and reliability.

I'm actually trying to integrate the short take off and landing with a higher cruise speed.
So I would like to understand the most important aspects of both categories.
I appreciate your response.

I agree with the apples and oranges comment.

For an LSA a cruise speed near 120 knots, a fuel burn of 5 gallons or less
per hour, and the ability to carry 2 'normal' sized people + a bit of
baggage (say 400 pounds total) with a 4 hour range would look good to me.
--
Best Regards,
Mike.

http://flickr.com/photos/mikenoel/

http://photoshow.comcast.net/mikenoel


"Jim Stewart" wrote in message
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aerojones wrote:
Hi

I'm conducting a survey for my aeronautics course and I was hoping you
all could help me out.

I'm focusing on smaller single reciprocating, nonturbine engine
aircrafts and I wanted to know what are the most important
features/expectations when considering a STOL and/or Light Sport
aircraft? Whether you are looking to buy, build, or just fly.

I think you need to limit your survey more.
What a bush pilot wants in a STOL is a lot
different than what a SLSA pilot wants which
is different than what an ultralight pilot
wants. Focus on one of these groups.

I fly an SLSA and the most important thing
for me is an economical cruise as close to
120 knots as possible, along with comfort
and reliability.

aerojones wrote:
'Jim Stewart[_2_ Wrote:
;681553']aerojones wrote:- Hi

I'm conducting a survey for my aeronautics course and I was hoping
you all could help me out.

I'm focusing on smaller single reciprocating, nonturbine engine
aircrafts and I wanted to know what are the most important
features/expectations when considering a STOL and/or Light Sport
aircraft? Whether you are looking to buy, build, or just fly.-

I think you need to limit your survey more. What a bush pilot wants
in a STOL is a lot different than what a SLSA pilot wants which is
different than what an ultralight pilot wants. Focus on one of
these groups.

I fly an SLSA and the most important thing for me is an economical
cruise as close to 120 knots as possible, along with comfort and
reliability.


I'm actually trying to integrate the short take off and landing with
a higher cruise speed. So I would like to understand the most
important aspects of both categories. I appreciate your response.

I fly a Flight Design CTSW. It cruises nicely
at 110 knots and, with a little skill and a little
headwind, will land in 500 feet. With flaps 40
and more skill it can descend steeply and land
in 300 feet or so. Likewise, on a cool day with
full fuel and no passengers, 1000 fpm climb is
normal. On a hot day, fully loaded, 500-600 fpm
at sea level.

On Feb 4, 4:48*pm, aerojones
wrote:
'Jim Stewart[_2_ Wrote:





;681553']aerojones wrote:-
Hi

I'm conducting a survey for my aeronautics course and I was hoping
you
all could help me out.

I'm focusing on smaller single reciprocating, nonturbine engine
aircrafts and I wanted to know what are the most important
features/expectations when considering a STOL and/or Light Sport
aircraft? Whether you are looking to buy, build, or just fly.-

I think you need to limit your survey more.
What a bush pilot wants in a STOL is a lot
different than what a SLSA pilot wants which
is different than what an ultralight pilot
wants. *Focus on one of these groups.

I fly an SLSA and the most important thing
for me is an economical cruise as close to
120 knots as possible, along with comfort
and reliability.

I'm actually trying to integrate the short take off and landing with a
higher cruise speed.
So I would like to understand the most important aspects of both
categories.
I appreciate your response.

--
aerojones- Hide quoted text -

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Maybe you need to define what you mean by "higer" cruise speed since
(at least in the US) there is a regulatory-established on maxium
airspeed for LSA.

I understand that the Flight Design CT designs (CT2K, CTSW, CTLS) will
cruise faster with changes to the prop, but cannot if they want retain
their LSA certification. I'm sure this is true for many other LSA's
too.

take care . . .

John

John wrote:
On Feb 4, 4:48 pm, aerojones
wrote:
'Jim Stewart[_2_ Wrote:





;681553']aerojones wrote:-
Hi
I'm conducting a survey for my aeronautics course and I was hoping
you
all could help me out.
I'm focusing on smaller single reciprocating, nonturbine engine
aircrafts and I wanted to know what are the most important
features/expectations when considering a STOL and/or Light Sport
aircraft? Whether you are looking to buy, build, or just fly.-
I think you need to limit your survey more.
What a bush pilot wants in a STOL is a lot
different than what a SLSA pilot wants which
is different than what an ultralight pilot
wants. Focus on one of these groups.
I fly an SLSA and the most important thing
for me is an economical cruise as close to
120 knots as possible, along with comfort
and reliability.
I'm actually trying to integrate the short take off and landing with a
higher cruise speed.
So I would like to understand the most important aspects of both
categories.
I appreciate your response.

--
aerojones- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Maybe you need to define what you mean by "higer" cruise speed since
(at least in the US) there is a regulatory-established on maxium
airspeed for LSA.

I understand that the Flight Design CT designs (CT2K, CTSW, CTLS) will
cruise faster with changes to the prop, but cannot if they want retain
their LSA certification. I'm sure this is true for many other LSA's
too.

take care . . .

John

John wrote:
On Feb 4, 4:48 pm, aerojones
wrote:
'Jim Stewart[_2_ Wrote:





;681553']aerojones wrote:-
Hi
I'm conducting a survey for my aeronautics course and I was hoping
you
all could help me out.
I'm focusing on smaller single reciprocating, nonturbine engine
aircrafts and I wanted to know what are the most important
features/expectations when considering a STOL and/or Light Sport
aircraft? Whether you are looking to buy, build, or just fly.-
I think you need to limit your survey more.
What a bush pilot wants in a STOL is a lot
different than what a SLSA pilot wants which
is different than what an ultralight pilot
wants. Focus on one of these groups.
I fly an SLSA and the most important thing
for me is an economical cruise as close to
120 knots as possible, along with comfort
and reliability.
I'm actually trying to integrate the short take off and landing with a
higher cruise speed.
So I would like to understand the most important aspects of both
categories.
I appreciate your response.

--
aerojones- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Maybe you need to define what you mean by "higer" cruise speed since
(at least in the US) there is a regulatory-established on maxium
airspeed for LSA.

The maximum cruise speed is specified by regulation,
but many LSA's can't cruise that fast. That was my
deal-killer on the Evektor SportStar. An otherwise
excellent plane, but comfortable cruise was about 90
knots on the one I flew. Comfortable cruise on my
CTSW is 105-110 knots.

Admittedly, "comfortable cruise" is my subjective term
for least noise and vibration and best fuel economy.

On Feb 9, 1:46*pm, Jim Stewart wrote:
John wrote:
On Feb 4, 4:48 pm, aerojones
wrote:
'Jim Stewart[_2_ Wrote:

;681553']aerojones wrote:-
Hi
I'm conducting a survey for my aeronautics course and I was hoping
you
all could help me out.
I'm focusing on smaller single reciprocating, nonturbine engine
aircrafts and I wanted to know what are the most important
features/expectations when considering a STOL and/or Light Sport
aircraft? Whether you are looking to buy, build, or just fly.-
I think you need to limit your survey more.
What a bush pilot wants in a STOL is a lot
different than what a SLSA pilot wants which
is different than what an ultralight pilot
wants. *Focus on one of these groups.
I fly an SLSA and the most important thing
for me is an economical cruise as close to
120 knots as possible, along with comfort
and reliability.
I'm actually trying to integrate the short take off and landing with a
higher cruise speed.
So I would like to understand the most important aspects of both
categories.
I appreciate your response.

--
aerojones- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Maybe you need to define what you mean by "higer" cruise speed since
(at least in the US) there is a regulatory-established on maxium
airspeed for LSA.

The maximum cruise speed is specified by regulation,
but many LSA's can't cruise that fast. *That was my
deal-killer on the Evektor SportStar. *An otherwise
excellent plane, but comfortable cruise was about 90
knots on the one I flew. *Comfortable cruise on my
CTSW is 105-110 knots.

Admittedly, "comfortable cruise" is my subjective term
for least noise and vibration and best fuel economy.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Mr. Stewart,

Curious about two things regarding your CTSW at "comfortable cruise"

How long is the endurance of the plane (assuming full tanks at the
start)? (Probably longer than the endurance of my bottom or my
bladder)

How many gallons per hour do you burn at 105 - 110 knots?

Thanks and take care . . .

John

John wrote:
On Feb 9, 1:46 pm, Jim Stewart wrote:
John wrote:
On Feb 4, 4:48 pm, aerojones
wrote:
'Jim Stewart[_2_ Wrote:
;681553']aerojones wrote:-
Hi
I'm conducting a survey for my aeronautics course and I was hoping
you
all could help me out.
I'm focusing on smaller single reciprocating, nonturbine engine
aircrafts and I wanted to know what are the most important
features/expectations when considering a STOL and/or Light Sport
aircraft? Whether you are looking to buy, build, or just fly.-
I think you need to limit your survey more.
What a bush pilot wants in a STOL is a lot
different than what a SLSA pilot wants which
is different than what an ultralight pilot
wants. Focus on one of these groups.
I fly an SLSA and the most important thing
for me is an economical cruise as close to
120 knots as possible, along with comfort
and reliability.
I'm actually trying to integrate the short take off and landing with a
higher cruise speed.
So I would like to understand the most important aspects of both
categories.
I appreciate your response.
--
aerojones- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Maybe you need to define what you mean by "higer" cruise speed since
(at least in the US) there is a regulatory-established on maxium
airspeed for LSA.
The maximum cruise speed is specified by regulation,
but many LSA's can't cruise that fast. That was my
deal-killer on the Evektor SportStar. An otherwise
excellent plane, but comfortable cruise was about 90
knots on the one I flew. Comfortable cruise on my
CTSW is 105-110 knots.

Admittedly, "comfortable cruise" is my subjective term
for least noise and vibration and best fuel economy.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Mr. Stewart,

Curious about two things regarding your CTSW at "comfortable cruise"

How long is the endurance of the plane (assuming full tanks at the
start)? (Probably longer than the endurance of my bottom or my
bladder

34 gallons, 32 useable, 7 hours minus reserves.

How many gallons per hour do you burn at 105 - 110 knots?

4.5

Here are the specs. They seem to agree
closely with my plane's performance..

http://www.flightdesignusa.com/specs.asp