musings - way waay OT

"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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In the end, reality always wins.

This has the makings of a great tag line. Mind if I steal it?

"Steve Foley" wrote in message
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"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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In the end, reality always wins.

This has the makings of a great tag line. Mind if I steal it?
It's old and not mine; help yourself! :~)

Where's mxsmanic when you need him???

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When immigration is outlawed, only outlaws will immigrate.

"Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" The Sea Hawk at wow way d0t com wrote in news:-
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Where's mxsmanic when you need him???

Busy playing his game? :-) and.....

justifying reasons on not flying a real airplane.

Allen

"Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" The Sea Hawk at wow way d0t com wrote in message
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Where's mxsmanic when you need him???

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When immigration is outlawed, only outlaws will immigrate.


So far he/she/it hasn't infected/infested rao.

On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 22:53:56 GMT, ".Blueskies."
wrote:


"ktbr" wrote in message ...
: Jay Honeck wrote:
:
:
: ALL of this money just vanishes. We don't even get our snow plowed,
: because the road between our two buildings is considered a "private"
: road (yet the city banned parking on it), and I haven't seen a street
: sweeper out front since last spring.
:
: It doesn't vanish, here's where it goes... after various state and
: federal agencies (that exist soley for the purpose of wealth
: re-distribution and nothing else) skim the cream off the top to
: pay for their salaries, benefits and union dues, the remaining
: money is handed out to people who have not earned in order to
: by their vote.
:
: That's the American way.

This is the American way:
http://www.federalbudget.com/

And to think, just a few years ago we had a chance to pay it all off,
or at least greately reduce it when we had the money. Instead the
politicians wanted to give the excess money back to the people who of
course all agreed, or most did. So now today we have a debt that has
grown to over 8 trillion with an interest payment larger than the GNP
of many nations.

The first rule of finanance is to get rid of any debts as soon as
possible. Nothing costs more than money you already own unless of
course if the money you owe is making more money for you than it would
were it paid off. IE the money, unlike the national debt, is earning
money for you even after interest.




Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 16:37:54 -0500, Wings wrote:

"Matt Barrow" posted the exciting message
:


"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hey, Jay!! Give this a read; long, almost 30 pages, but well worth
it if anyone thinks the Repubs are going to change any of this,
ever.

http://www.theobjectivestandard.com/...cline-fall-ame
rican-conservatism.asp

snip
Well, it's tough to have them voting that way when most of the time the
choices boil down to:

Socially liberal and Financially liberal.
vs
Socially conservative and Financially conservative.

Unfortunately we've also discovered with the current administration that
we have

Socially very conservative and Financially very liberal!


Yup, we get a choice to vote for one extreme or the other and over the
last decade (at least) the parties have been moving ever more extreme
and farther apart.

The conservatives now have the religious fundamentalists and the
Liberals are for the world government. Regardless of what they say,
both are for the elite, not the vast majority of the population.

I think, which means I really don't know, but when it comes to voting
although many voters say we need a third party they are not willing to
(as they see it) waste their vote on some one who doesn't have a
chance so they vote for what they see as a lesser of two evils with
the two major parties. That's a mind set that is going to be difficult
to change and with the two major parties having all the money behind
them it would be difficult for even a top runner in either major party
to get more than a token vote if they switched to one of the
independents.

I will freely admit that in the last three major elections I didn't
vote for some one, I voted against the opposition and not just in the
top spot. Admittedly there are a few good people out there but more
and more I view "honest politician" as an oxymoron. Even those who
represent some of my most cherished pursuits, due to party
affiliations also stand for some of the things I most fear or dislike.

Being a dyed in the wool, middle of the roader, there's rarely any one
running I see worth voting for. In addition I've always believed that
any candidate that resorts to negative add campaigns against the
opposition does so because they don't have any thing good they can say
about them selves.

So, yes I am one of those who feels like I've been abandoned by both
parties in our political system as the extremes in both represent the
things to which I am opposed.

And in closing my rant...why oh why can't we have politicians,
religions, and charities added to the "do not call" list?
When I get a call that is obviously from one of the above I hang up
without bothering to even find out who it's from.


I couldn't agree more with Jay's post.

Tim Long
CMA




Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

On 20 Oct 2006 11:22:08 -0700, "Jay Honeck"
wrote:

Well of course the system is broken and you have pointed
out exactly why. Things will not get better unless some
serious reform is enacted. A flat tax, or a national sales
tax would be an excellent start.

The government, by making employers do all their dirty work, has done
an excellent job of fleecing their own people, and keeping it a secret.


As long as the vast majority of citizens are completely unaware of the
magnitude of their taxation (and, believe me, they are), nothing will
change.

But first we need to tax the crap out of everyone to pay off the
national debt which could have been done a few years ago without the
taxes. THEN we can move forward without leaving a huge load for those
that come after us....maybe I should have rephrased that last from
"that come after us" to "our childern and their children".

I'm retired and receiving SS. You guys just keep workin' and keep
those checks a commin'. :-))
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

On 21 Oct 2006 05:18:08 -0700, "Denny" wrote:


Well this has been fun if inefectual - but I actually feel better...

To those mumbling darkly about my vast salary ripped from the backs my
exploited employees - get a friggin clue! picture me rolling on the

Man, I never realized...I thought I knew you after all these years and
figured you for being a nice guy.
I guess I'll have to look for the whip marks on your employees the
next time I stop by.

floor in hysterical laughter - vast salary my ass... I'm well past
retirement age and still working a 12 hour week day - and it is

You're *down* to 12 hour days now?

Saturday morning when I would really prefer to be out in my shop making
saw dust, and here I am working... Does that suggest anything to you?
probably not, jeeeezzzz....

later guys, I gotta work now... denny

You should take a break, get some rest and go tighten your guy wires.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

On 21 Oct 2006 06:50:25 -0700, "Jay Honeck"
wrote:

So Jay do you draw a salary that is "almost unimaginable?"

I know you know the answer to that question, but here it is:

Mary and I are the lowest-paid employees at the hotel, if you figure
out what we make per hour.

Awh, come on Jay. We all know you're one of those rich, self employed
guys:-))

When I graduated from college at age 50 with a BS in CS (OK so I'm a
slow learner and you may interpret the BS in CS as you wish) and
started a good job I had a salary that was way above what I made back
as an hourly employee. Then I figured out how many hours I was putting
in for that extra money. It was less per hour than I'd been getting
before. Plus I was on call 24 X 7 X 365 OTOH it was worth it just in
the freedom and autonomy I gained.

BTW the pager went off when I was wandering around one year as OSH. I
apparently didn't get to a phone fast enough so they had me paged over
the flight line PA system. They called me again at night where I was
staying, they paged me when we were visiting my wife's folks down in
Florida... Well...you get the idea. (I purchased a cell phone the
next year but I always forgot to give them the number)
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com